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Her new name is weirdo OGโ€ฆJahkno. I await her flowers.
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First week of vegetation! They are doing very well, they have all grown and I am very happy from now on to give them more cane, as soon as they grow a little more I will plant them directly in the ground so that they have more space.
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Last week before flowering ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜„๐Ÿ˜ The plants did an excellent job last week. The repotting to the large pots has done them well. ๐Ÿ‘ I have watered the plants 3 times now. First two times 5 liters of water, containing 1 tablet of RQS Easy Grow Booster. The third time 1.5 tablet for 5 liters of water. Mind ! It takes a while before the tablets are dissolved! ๐Ÿ˜น The color of the new leaves is beautifully green. The VPD is now also perfect most of the time with a value of 1.0 ๐Ÿ‘Œ For that I had to increase the relative humidity to almost 70%. ๐Ÿ˜ญ I attached the larger plants to the plantsticks with a plastic binding strip. In this way I pull the plants to the same height as the smaller plants. Hopefully this results in a nice flat canopy. The lower branches may develop faster now, but I will remove them later. ๐Ÿ‘ฝ The plants now get 18 hours of light instead of 24 hours, so the shock is a little less when they go to 12/12. ๐Ÿ™
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MB is amazing strain from exotic genetix ,great teast and aroma and very powerful (absolutely greasy) Heavy yield and bery strong genetics
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The plants have grown like 20-30cm since flipping to flowering
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Inizio un nuovo ciclo come sempre in ritardo, volevo iniziare a settembre e ho ritardato di un mese. Vediamo a questo coltivo cosa viene fuori! PeaceโœŒ๏ธ
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Tester FBA2502 โ€“ 42 Fast Buds | Day 72 This autoflower has exceeded all expectations! The plant is compact yet very productive โ€” the side branches almost rival the main one. The buds are dense, heavily coated in resin, and fully covered with trichomes. Flowering finished right around day 72, and trichomes are about 15% amber. The aroma is incredibly strong and intense, with a sharp, chemical-like punch โ€” powerful and penetrating. Grow details: โ€ข Nutrients: Xpert Nutrients โ€ข Light: Mars Hydro FC-3000 EVO โ€ข Pot size: 11 L โ€ข COโ‚‚: used during veg and for 4 weeks of flowering โ€ข Strain: Tester FBA2502 by Fast Buds (autoflower, exact genetics not revealed yet) Harvest and trichome check coming soon!
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Another good week in the garden. Day 37 since iniating the flower cycle! Day 29 of since visble flower (pistils) showing. Pheno #7 is doing particularly well and is the reason we allocated half of our test area to it. She has an aroma reminiscent of what you would expect from the jelly rancher - jelly babies, sour worms, and super fruity. It's a fast-flowering plant and has plenty of trichomes. Pheno #1 also has some impressive terpenes, and structure but not as quick. Pheno #8 is big and vigorous is proving to be a high-yielder. Not as terpe as the other 2 Pheno #5 is similar to #8 but has more hairs. We will start harvesting #7 and #8 in the next 14 days or so :D Untill next week โœŠ
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Flowering day 11 since time change to 12/12 h. Hey guys :-) The first days of this week it looked really terrible for me because it was much too cold because of the unusual temperature. The heating mat has now also arrived for the big tent and lo and behold the plants have been developing really well since that day โ˜บ๏ธ๐Ÿ‘. The temperature doesn't keep quite as well as in the small box, but at least I don't get below 18 degrees in the pots at night anymore, even though it's only 16 at the top ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ‘. Since I switched to flowering, it was time to rinse off a bit with Clean Fruits :-) . Did them a lot of good. You have already received the first watering with Grow Liquid and the next in a mix with Bloom Liquid ๐Ÿ˜€๐Ÿ‘. Otherwise everything was cleaned and checked. Stay healthy ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ You can buy this Nutrients at : https://greenbuzzliquids.com/en/shop/ With the discount code: Made_in_Germany you get a discount of 15% on all products from an order value of 100 euros. ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿผ You can buy this strain at : https://www.thegratefulseeds.com/shop/feminized-seeds/limited-edition/blue-javaz/ Water ๐Ÿ’ง ๐Ÿ’ง๐Ÿ’ง Osmosis water mixed with normal water (24 hours stale that the chlorine evaporates) to 0.2 EC. Add Cal / Mag to 0.4 Ec Ph with Organic Ph - to 5.8 - 6.5 MadeInGermany
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She is doing realy well didnt changed the feeding scheme buds getting daily bigger. im realy impressed how she recovert from the wrong light cycle. I have 3 fans running to deal with the high temps. Still i have one more but i use it for my self if i reach 35C in the tend i have to suffer for the plants.
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Plant is chugging away. Starting cut back on nutes now. Lady buy is a beneficial insect.
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๐Ÿ’™ Project Blue Tent โ€“ Week 7 Blue Waffle F1 โ€“ Pheno B (Folder 13B) Hello everyone, and welcome back to another chapter of Project Blue Tent! ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŒฑ If you're joining us for the first time, welcome aboard. Project Blue Tent follows four individual Blue Waffle F1 plants from Zamnesia, each documented separately from seed all the way through harvest. All four sisters share the same environment, lighting, nutrition, irrigation and training techniques. The idea is simple: Keep the environment as consistent as possible and let the genetics tell the story. And despite all those similarities, each plant still manages to develop her own little personality. Today we're checking in with Blue Waffle F1 โ€“ Plant B. And if you've been following her journey... You might remember that this is the girl who had a rather unexpected visitor last week. ๐Ÿ› Don't worry. She's absolutely fine. In fact, judging by the way she's growing... She seems to have completely forgotten it ever happened. โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€ ๐ŸŒฟ Week Seven โ€“ The Canopy Is Ready This week feels like the end of one chapter and the beginning of another. For several weeks we've been building the canopy. Topping. Training. Guiding branches. Installing the SCROG. Tucking shoots underneath the net. Slowly filling every available space. And now... We've done it. The canopy is essentially where I want it. Plant B is sitting at approximately 60 cm, just like her sisters, with the SCROG keeping the plants at a remarkably even height. Looking from above, it's becoming increasingly difficult to distinguish one phenotype from another. That's actually one of the most fascinating things about this project. Four individual plants. Four individual diaries. And yet, under identical conditions, they're producing an incredibly uniform overall canopy. Plant B has once again filled her section beautifully. She's healthy, vigorous and absolutely covered in potential flowering sites. So now it's time for the final preparation before we flip. โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€ ๐Ÿ•ธ๏ธ The SCROG Mission โ€“ Completed The SCROG has been one of the most important pieces of the puzzle during this vegetative cycle. Instead of allowing the plants to develop a few dominant vertical tops, we've spent weeks encouraging the branches to grow horizontally across the screen. Every time a shoot tried to escape upward, we'd gently guide it underneath the net and into the next available square. Slowly... The empty spaces disappeared. And eventually, the screen became one continuous canopy. That's exactly what we wanted. The purpose isn't simply to keep the plants at 60 cm. It's to distribute the growing tips across the available light and create a more uniform structure for flowering. And Plant B has handled the entire process beautifully. Now that the screen is full, however, our priorities are changing. We're no longer trying to add more foliage. We're preparing the foliage we already have. โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€ โœ‚๏ธ Defoliation โ€“ The Final Vegetative Cleanup This week's main event is defoliation. And this is an important distinction: Defoliation isn't about removing leaves because they look ugly. It's not about trying to make the plant look "clean." And it's certainly not about stripping every leaf from the plant. Leaves are the plant's solar panels. They're valuable. So the objective is selective removal, not destruction. After several weeks of vigorous vegetative growth and SCROG training, the interior of the canopy has become extremely dense. There are leaves overlapping one another. Branches crossing through crowded areas. And sections of the plant where airflow and light penetration can be improved simply by removing some unnecessary foliage. That's what we're addressing now. We're opening the plant. Creating breathing room. Improving visibility. And preparing the structure for the much denser environment that flowering will bring. โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€ ๐ŸŒฌ๏ธ Why Do This Before Flower? This timing is very deliberate. Defoliation is a form of stress. Even when performed correctly, removing a substantial amount of foliage temporarily forces the plant to adjust to a new balance between its leaves, roots and active growing points. So I want that recovery to happen before flowering begins. We're still running an 18/6 vegetative schedule. The plants are actively growing. They have time to recover. And we're not simultaneously asking them to transition into a completely different developmental phase. Once flowering begins, I want the plant's attention moving toward flower development rather than recovering from major structural work. So we're following a very simple sequence: Build the canopy. Fill the screen. Defoliate. Recover. Flip. One step at a time. โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€ ๐Ÿง  What Defoliation Actually Achieves There's a common misconception that removing leaves automatically means more light equals more growth. It's not quite that simple. The reason we're doing this is to improve the overall efficiency of the canopy. We're trying to create a better relationship between: ๐ŸŒฑ Growing sites ๐Ÿ’ก Light penetration ๐ŸŒฌ๏ธ Air movement ๐Ÿƒ Leaf density ? Plant structure The upper canopy is already receiving plenty of light. What concerns me more is what happens underneath it. A dense interior can become a maze of overlapping leaves and branches. By selectively removing some of that congestion now, we're creating a more open structure before the flowers begin developing. And that's particularly valuable inside a compact tent where four vigorous plants are sharing the same space. โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€ ๐ŸŒฟ Plant B โ€“ The Girl Who Bounced Back And then there's Plant B. The survivor of the infamous caterpillar incident. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ› Last week she had a tiny visitor arrive from the outside vegetable garden and apparently decided that one of her leaves would make an excellent snack. Fortunately, the entire event was almost comically uneventful. The caterpillar was found. It was removed. The affected area was cleaned up. The entire tent was inspected. And Plant B simply continued growing. No meaningful setback. No visible stress. No drama. If anything... She seems to have responded by growing even harder. Her foliage is now rich, healthy green from top to bottom. The new growth is vigorous. The branches remain strong and flexible. And the canopy has continued expanding exactly as planned. So I think it's safe to say: Plant B won that battle. The caterpillar got one meal. Plant B got another week of growth. I'd call that a draw. ๐Ÿ˜‚ โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€ ๐Ÿ’ง Drip Irrigation โ€“ Doing Its Job The Mars Hydro drip irrigation and automatic drainage system continues to impress me. Each plant is currently receiving approximately 1.2 litres of nutrient solution per 24 hours, delivered consistently through the individual drippers. The runoff is then collected and removed through the automatic drainage system. That consistency has become particularly valuable now that the plants are getting larger and the root systems are becoming increasingly demanding. Instead of manually trying to reproduce the same watering pattern every day, the system gives the plants a predictable routine. And the plants are clearly responding well to it. Healthy foliage. Strong growth. Stable development. It's one of those pieces of equipment that quietly does its job in the background... Which is exactly what I want from an irrigation system. โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€ ๐Ÿฅฅ Feeding Program The nutrient recipe remains completely unchanged this week. There is simply no reason to interfere with something that's working. Current feeding: โ€ข Plagron Hydro A โ€” 1.9 ml/L โ€ข Plagron Hydro B โ€” 1.9 ml/L โ€ข Plagron Hydro Roots โ€” 1 ml/L Current EC: 1.92 mS/cm pH: 5.8 For now, I'm keeping the nutrition exactly where it is. The plants are showing excellent colour, vigorous growth and healthy structure. We may increase the nutritional strength next week depending on how they respond after this defoliation and as we move into flowering. But I prefer to make that decision based on the plants rather than simply increasing numbers because the calendar says we should. They'll tell me when they're hungry. โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€ ๐ŸŒก๏ธ Blue Tent Environment The environmental conditions remain wonderfully stable. This week's average conditions were: โ€ข ๐ŸŒก๏ธ Day Temperature: 28ยฐC โ€ข ๐ŸŒ™ Night Temperature: 25ยฐC โ€ข ๐Ÿ’ง Relative Humidity: 65% โ€ข ๐Ÿฅฅ Substrate Temperature: 24ยฐC โ€ข ๐Ÿ’ฆ Nutrient Solution: 18ยฐC โ€ข โš—๏ธ pH: 5.8 โ€ข โšก EC: 1.92 mS/cm โ€ข ๐Ÿ’จ COโ‚‚: approximately 450 ppm โ€ข ๐Ÿ’ก Light Schedule: 18/6 โ€ข ๐Ÿ’ง Irrigation: approximately 1.2 L/plant/24h โ€ข ? Pot Size: 8 L โ€ข ๐Ÿ“ Plant Height: approximately 60 cm The consistency between the four plants is one of the things I appreciate most about this project. We're trying to remove as many environmental variables as possible so that when differences appear, we can look much more closely at the plants themselves. And right now... The similarities are remarkable. โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€ ๐ŸŒฑ Four Sisters, One Canopy This is perhaps the strangest part of the project at the moment. When I look across the Blue Tent from above, the four plants almost look like one giant organism. The canopy is extremely uniform. The colour is consistent. The height is consistent. The growth rate is remarkably similar. And the SCROG has done an excellent job of bringing everything together. Of course, if you look closely, you can still see the individual personalities. That's why these separate diaries exist. But from a distance? It's becoming increasingly difficult to tell who is who. And honestly... That's a beautiful result. It means the environment is doing exactly what we wanted it to do. โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€ ๐ŸŒฟ Plant B's Personality Plant B continues to be one of the more naturally cooperative plants in the tent. She's responsive to training. She's vigorous without becoming unruly. And she has developed an incredibly usable structure beneath the screen. Her branches have thickened nicely, her internodal spacing remains compact, and the new growth continues appearing with that healthy, vibrant colour I've been looking for. And perhaps most importantly... She doesn't seem to hold grudges. We topped her. We bent her. We tucked her. A caterpillar ate her. And now we're defoliating her. And she's still standing there saying: "Is that all you've got?" ๐Ÿ˜‚๐ŸŒฑ That's Plant B. โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€ ๐Ÿ‘€ Looking Ahead โ€“ Flower Is Coming After today's cleanup, the most important thing we can do is... Nothing. Let her recover. Let the new growth settle. Keep the environment stable. Keep the roots happy. And observe. This is where patience becomes just as important as technique. We've spent weeks building this plant. Now we need to give her the time to respond. If everything continues looking this good, the next major milestone will be the transition into flowering. The screen is full. The excess foliage has been cleaned up. The structure is ready. And the plants are healthy. We're almost there. Vegetative growth is coming to an end. The next chapter is going to be very different. ๐ŸŒธ Flowering is next. โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€โ”€ ๐Ÿ’™ Thank You A huge thank you to Zamnesia for making Project Blue Tent possible and for providing these fantastic Blue Waffle F1 genetics. A heartfelt thank you to Plagron for the Premium Growbags and Hydro nutrient line, which continue providing the plants with everything they need to maintain this beautiful growth. A special thank you to Mars Hydro for the drip irrigation and automatic drainage system. It has been performing wonderfully throughout this project and has made maintaining consistency inside the tent considerably easier. Thank you as well to Future of Grow for the UVC LED bar, which remains another tool within my preventative IPM routine. And of course, thank you to GrowDiaries for giving growers around the world a place to document, learn, exchange ideas and share these journeys. And finally... Thank you. For following. For commenting. For asking questions. For sharing your own experiences. And for simply being here. Plant B has already survived topping, SCROG training and a tiny caterpillar invasion. Now she's clean, healthy and ready for the next chapter. The canopy is full. The room is ready. The plants are ready. And soon... we flip the Blue Tent. ๐ŸŒธ๐Ÿ’™ Until next week... Growers Love, happy growing, and take care everyone! ๐ŸŒฑ๐Ÿ’™
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she is in her last stage ... after a lot of patience ... just one more week for her ... she does not look perfect like others ... she fought against all the plagues and she resisted very well .. .. continues with its smell of pine. mint ... and its typical smell indica ... it has 154 days from its germination .... on April 29 will have 100 days of flowering and will be the day of your court ...
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Flower day 24 - Ladies are coming along great! A few are having calmag deficiencies but nothing major, other than being a bit crowded I couldnโ€™t be happier with the grow so far! Thank you to everyone following & happy growing friends!โœŒ๏ธ๐Ÿผ๐ŸŒฑ Flower day 25 - Humidity is at 47% temp is at 79F - Ladies got watered today at 6.5 PH , a few got some calmag. Happy growing friends!โœŒ๏ธ๐Ÿผ Flower day 27 - RH is 51% Temp is 81F - Ladies got fed today, I got the fox farm Dirty Dozen kit is so the got a lot more stuff this week hoping it helps! Happy growing friends!๐ŸŒฑโœŒ๏ธ๐Ÿผ Flower day 29 - Noticed some PM on one of the Gorilla zkittlez๐Ÿ˜ซ have her pulled out of the tent right now apply neem oil hoping she will bounce back!
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The Harvest Prelude: After a patient wait and 48 hours of darkness, the moment arrived. The Tropical Tangie Lego Ninja, standing proudly like a silent guardian, was ready for the grand harvest. The sound of each cut echoed through the grow space, reminiscent of felling a mighty tree. The compact structure of the buds was awe-inspiring, a testament to the ninja's disciplined growth. The Lego Ninja, like a stoic warrior, was then hung upside down, beginning a two-week drying ritual. Maintaining an ambient temperature of around 21ยฐC and a relative humidity of 60%, this slow-drying process allowed the buds to retain their essence, preserving the symphony of terpenes and cannabinoids. The trimming phase unfolded like a fragrant masterpiece. Each bud, adorned with a glistening layer of resin, transformed the trimming process into a sensory delight. The zesty aroma of oranges enveloped the room, a tangible expression of the tropical lineage. The compact buds made every snip a careful dance, revealing an abundance of frosty trichomes. The moment of reckoning arrived with the scale's unveiling. The Tropical Tangie Lego Ninja, from a single plant, bestowed upon me 309 grams of dried medicine. Each gram was a treasure trove of cannabinoids, a promise of euphoria and relief. The sheer compactness of the buds translated into a concentrated potency that left me in awe. In parallel, the clones, nurtured with equal care, showcased a fascinating divergence. A twist in the tale unfolded as the intense oranges of the mother transitioned into vibrant tangerines. This unique expression, I believe, was a testament to the clones weathering a summer heatwave differently, bringing forth a distinct personality. The clones, resilient and generous, gifted me a bountiful 549 grams of pure joy. This now my keeper of the garden, an embodiment of the Lego Ninja's legacy. The harvest dance, though familiar, carried the nuances of tangerine zest, a refreshing twist that left me eager to explore its intricacies. Both harvests shared a common threadโ€”their resinous abundance. The trim bin, akin to a treasure chest, gleamed with golden trichomes and fragrant joy. Sticky fingers became a badge of honor, a tangible connection to the resinous richness that filled the room. Shout Outs: No harvest report is complete without expressions of gratitude. A special nod to @DutchPassion_Official for crafting the genetic marvel that is the Tropical Tangie Lego Ninja. Their expertise paved the way for this epic journey, and I tip my hat in acknowledgment. In conclusion: As the dust settles on this epic harvest saga, my heart brims with happiness and excitement. The Tropical Tangie Lego Ninja has proven itself not just as a plant but as a living masterpiece. Stay tuned for the smoke report, where we delve into the true essence of this botanical ninja's legacy. Until then, fellow cultivators, may your gardens flourish, and your harvests be as bountiful as the joy they bring. As always thank you all for stopping by, for the love and for it all , this journey of mine wold just not be the same without you guys, the love and support is very much appreciated and i fell honored and blessed with you all in my life<3 <3 <3 #aptus #aptusplanttech #aptusgang #aptusfamily #aptustrueplantscience #inbalancewithnature #trueplantscience With true love comes happiness <3 <3 <3 Always believe in your self and always do things expecting nothing and with an open heart , be a giver and the universe will give back to you in ways you could not even imagine so <3 <3 <3 Friendly reminder all you see here is pure research and for educational purposes only <3 <3 <3 Growers Love To you All <3 <3 <3 P.S- I must extend my sincerest apologies for the missing video reports. Regrettably, Grow Diaries is still facing some technical issues that are preventing me from uploading them. Rest assured, as soon as the situation is resolved, I'll share those videos to give you an even closer look at this fascinating journey. or in my case apparently GD dont let me do uploads over 100mb with is super small file if you working and editing videos , doing my best here to upload them all but GD is not making my life easy on this <3 <3 <3