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this is @fastbuds entry for tik tok contest, a constant loop or longer?
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So it’s been 11 days since I last seen them we’ve had a couple showers of rain between that time, she’s started flowering.. Some animal has helped itself to a few tips and leaves, only took probably 2-3 tops and a couple leaves but mustn’t of enjoyed it.. I hope so anyway. 🤞 So everyone how does it look?? Anything I should do?? Any tips on how to support the branches for when they get abit heavier? Thanks everyone!!
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Day 22 Def the most stretched girls I’ve grown to date. Still no real complaints. Watering between every and every other day. Good bud sites. Lights on a 7 maybe 14 in a way at strongest.
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April 5, 2024 Day 50 This week will focus mostly on ScrOG and watering. The lighting will stay roughly the same as the net will be keeping the canopy a bit lower for a bit longer. Nutrients have changed as well. The SCroG net has been installed at 19" from soil. Both plants, again, are the same size and shape and structure and leaf coverage and all. So I had to pull down about 3 tops per plant. The rest of the canopy is just at 19". I plan to keep it that way for at least this week. Hopefully they don't get away from me. The nutrients have been changed around a bit as well. I removed the Big Bud and Sensizym and replaced them with Overdrive at 8 ml/gal and increased Bud Candy to 8 ml/gal for the next 2 to 3 weeks. Then we are looking at flushing for the rest of the grow. So maybe a week and a half of flushing. The lighting was adjusted to match the SCroG net. It is now perfectly set to 24" with the power remaining at 90%. The DLI is at 45 mol/m²/d through most of the canopy. With the net in place, I have a couple extra inches to work with above the light. Plenty of space now. The environment will also be tweaked a bit this week as well. I'm going to try to get the humidity down to 50% by the end of the week, but I always have trouble controlling the environment. I don't expect this to be any different. We shall see. As long as the weather doesn't go insane like it did for my last run, I should be able to keep it steady. Maybe not exactly where I want it, but steady as she goes. I'm also planning on dropping the temp down to 75° for the rest of the run. I'll also be running slightly cooler night temps at that time as well. Maybe 66° would be good. Maybe 65° to bring out that beautiful purple. Update: I forgot to say that I took off a few leaves that were blocking other bud sites. Not many, just to help a bit. Grow System Environment: Temp: 75.2° RH: 54.3% VPD: 1.32 kPa April 6, 2024 Watering day today. Both ladies got a full gallon refill today. I also did a bit of research on the Advanced Nutrients feeding schedule. Of course I have an autoflower, so it's not quite the same. But I can follow a different schedule that matches my 5 week veg stage. I'll be adding the Big Bud back in and removing the Overdrive for this week. I'll review what the plants are doing and decide what action to take next week. I'm pretty sure I'll need to wait another week before adding the Overdrive and pulling out the Big Bud. I did leave the Bud Candy at 8 ml/gal though. They are definitely in need of more candy. Again, both plants are basically the same. They are both sticky all over now. Even the stems are covered in trichomes. Especially so early in the flowering stage. I didn't check the roots on Tropicana Cookies, mostly because with the net in there I have extremely limited space to work. But we all know the roots are everywhere on the bottom of the container. Tropicana C, on the other hand is starting to show more on the outside of the container. I'll check the bottom tomorrow along with Tropicana Cookies. The lighting hasn't changed at all. Mostly because I brought the tops back down under the net. So the DLI is the same at 45 mol/m²/d and 24" from the canopy. Perfect. Now, I don't really understand how to SCroG really. I know to bring the tops back under the net, but what about raising the net to accommodate the growth of the tops after everything is level again. There are some tops that aren't quite at the net yet, but the whole tent is like that, hence the net in place. The environment is pretty good today. The temp is spot on at 75.6° and the humidity is a bit high at 56.7%. But the VPD is still in that perfection range at 1.30 kPa. Update: I ended up snipping some leaves from both ladies. There were a few massive ones that were covering multiple bud sites. There were a few others in the lower part of the canopy that were blocking the lower bud sites. Now there's a good amount of leaf coverage. Grow System Environment: Temp: 76.3° RH: 54.6% VPD: 1.36 kPa April 7, 2024 Looking good today. Both ladies had a couple tops pulled back down. I think I'll continue to pull them down until the rest of the plant starts to grow above the net. It's very close. Maybe another couple of days. Tropicana Cookies looks great! Excellent leaf coverage and bud sites developing everywhere. There really isn't much else to say about it. Roots are inaccessible to me now with the net up and the plant being in a rear quadrant. Tropicana C is starting to develop a beautiful root structure along the bottom of the container. All the way around the bottom outside and the very bottom is coming in super evenly. She also had a couple tops pulled down. The rest is catching up. I'm expecting great things. No watering needed today. I'd say another couple of days, then a full reservoir top off for each. Lighting won't be changed for a few more days. When the tops all start climbing over the net, I'll have to either raise the light or drop the power. I still have plenty of space to lift the light, so I'll leave the power the same unless I need to. Let's hope it only needs to be to 80% if need be. The environment is basically perfect with the temp being at 77° and the humidity at 55%. The VPD is perfect at 1.33 kPa. I couldn't ask for better conditions. I'll be gradually dropping the humidity down to 50% and raise the VPD to 1.45 kPa starting next week. Eventually, I want the humidity down to 40% and the temp around 75°. I should be able to pull it off. Especially if I do one final defoliation. I'm not sure that I will to be honest. Unless these leaves get massive, the coverage is excellent. Update: As I did yesterday, I was further inspecting both plants and discovered a few leaves that needed to go. Just a few km each plant. I had to note it though. Cutting leaves is an important thing to note and a step to be careful with. Too much and the plant could get stressed out. So far I'm seeing zero signs of stress. I don't take a lot though, so I don't expect any stress at all. This is only based on my past experiences. I learned that lack of defoliation can be a bad thing. Not for air and light, but for bud formation. My ants would get so full, they overlapped and left no space for the buds to fully develop. It resulted in airy loose buds. Tasty though. Anyway, the lesson was that I don't take enough off. This time around I'm taking just a bit more and the plants seem to be loving it. Lots and lots of well formed buds deep in the canopy. I'm honestly not too sure how tall they will get. The buds are developing quite nicely, but I can tell they are still very new and have a lot of growing to do. That being said, this should be around when the plants take off. We shall see how things go over the next week or so. Grow System Environment: Temp: 76.1° RH: 54.4% VPD: 1.36 kPa April 8, 2024 Not a lot going on today. Both ladies look the same still. No issues, no stress, just growth. Nearly all the tops are breaking past the net now, so everything is wonderful. No watering today. They have about 2/3 water left, so maybe another day or so. We shall see. With the plants breaking past the net, I had to lift the light today. Not only did I have to lift it, I also had to drop the power down to 80%. No idea why the DLI was so high, but it was at 50 mol/m²/d. Now it's back down to 45 mol/m²/d. Interesting though. I wonder if my meter needs calibration. Maybe. I'll check it out later. For now I'm looking for slight praying. The environment today is just as good as it has been for most of the grow. The temp is at 76° today. It dipped down to 74° for a couple hours, but picked back up a little while ago as I thought it would. The humidity has been wonderful as well. It's fluctuating between 54% and 56%. Wonderful! Update: The light changes were perfect. Just enough to get some slight praying. Everything is good in the world. Grow System Environment: Temp: 76.5° RH: 53.9% VPD: 1.41 kPa April 9, 2024 Nothing to do today except water. Both plants needed a full reservoir refill. So it's taking them roughly 2 days to empty now. Good to know. They are getting thirsty and that means more growth and production. They both have a decent amount of trichomes coming through now. What a wonderful aroma coming from them. Crisp and sour with a fruity base. Very nice indeed. They don't have any differences, so I can't really make a report about each one without writing the same thing, so I'll just describe them as a whole. Both plants have nice roots coverage on the bottom and lower sides of the containers. Their leaf coverage is basically perfect for what I'm looking for. Plenty of foliage to catch the light, but not too much to overshadow bud sites. There's barely any overlapping leaves and zero clusters. The color is wonderful and they are super healthy. The branches are a bit thin and still very pliable. I think I can expect that to change in the next few days or so. I also took just a few leaves off both plants total. Nothing much, but there was a cluster and an overlapping leaf. Just enough to keep the lower tops free and clear of extra foliage. I didn't move the light today. There aren't enough tops over the net to justify it yet. When the stretch finishes up, I'll reevaluate the light position and power to best cover the whole canopy without over doing it with the taller top sites. I may have to move the light up tomorrow though. Either way, it'll need to be paid attention to over the next week or 2. The environment is still fantastic. And it's beautiful out today. The tent is feeling it and is happily at 75° and 51% humidity. The VPD is very happy at 1.42 kPa. For this exact age of the plants and their progress, the VPD should start to rise a bit to 1.40, so it's now spot on. I think I can bring it up to 1.6 without any issues. That should be around 75° and 45% humidity. I'll see what I can do over the next 2 weeks or so. It should be very simple to bring it down to that temp and humidity. Especially if I do a final defoliation. Honestly, I don't think I'll need to do a defoliation at all. Maybe remove a few overlapping leaves and any clusters that pop up. Other than that, it should be fine. Grow System Environment: Temp: 74.7° RH: 50.3% VPD: 1.42 kPa April 10, 2024 A little bit of change today. Both plants are completely through the net with Tropicana Cookies suddenly slowing down a bit. Or it's Tropicana C that has sped up. Either way, Tropicana C has completely cleared and stretched above the net. They are solid tops and don't want to risk breaking them, so they are growing straight up now. Honestly, I think it's time to let them finish stretching. Other than the slight height difference, there isn't anything else to mention. They both look super healthy and are growing quite nicely. I can't wait to see what they end up like. The light was raised an inch today. That's specifically due to Tropicana C and her stretch. Unfortunately, I'm nearly out of space for the light to go. Either way, the DLI is back down to 45 mol/m²/d. I am also debating on shrinking the footprint a couple inches. Mostly to increase the intensity for better canopy penetration. I may drop it to 22" instead. The canopy isn't all that deep, so this should give some pretty good bud throughout the whole plant. I'm also considering the SCroG net. Frankly, I would like to pull each plant out for inspection and maintenance. With the net there, it cannot be done. However, if the plants stretch in such a way that I can safely lift the net up and off, I will. It all depends on how they look after stretching has finished up. And of course to make sure the buds aren't weighing down the whole branch. I will say, the internodal spacing is really nice. The environment is way off today. The humidity is high at 58° and the temp is low at 74°. It's definitely hurting the VPD at 1.14 kPa. I'll have to mess with it more to see what I can do. I also didn't snip any leaves off today. They really don't need it. However, they may need it in a couple weeks. We shall see. Grow System Environment: Temp: 77.5° RH: 52.5% VPD: 1.49 kPa April 11, 2024 A bit of a trimming session today for both ladies. Not a full session, mind you, but some trimming was done. Mostly leaves in the lower canopy. I also removed a few leaves that were being crushed against the walls of the tent. Those came off as well. I also removed a couple tie downs to allow for those branches to lift up a bit. With the net in place, there is plenty of space in the canopy for light and airflow. Especially from the original training and the way I defoliated. Both ladies are now covered in sticky and sweet smelling trichomes. I was kind of hoping for the trichomes to show up a week ago, but this is fine. I mean, the stretch isn't even done yet, so I can expect even more trichomes. Speaking of trichomes production, my last grow didn't have much in sticky trichomes. I'm thinking it had to do with the light being entirely way too close. It just burned off the trichomes. This round should be much better with the light so far away. Tropicana Cookies looks fantastic. She has wonderful bud to leaf ratio. Great colors and stretching quite nicely. Her tops are completely level and about an inch above the net total. So e of the tops are taller, but not by much. I'm hoping for at least 24" from her. Tropicana C also looks great. It officially has to tallest cola in the tent. I tried to bend it down into the net, but it's just too stiff and tall now. I may tie it down into the tent. I'll check back later today and decide then. She should hit 24" by the end of the stretch. The lighting will need to be changed I think starting tomorrow. With the height where it is and the intensity, it may need a power increase. I also might drop the light an inch. One or the other. The DLI is a tiny bit low, just below 45 mol/m²/d. The outsides are at 38 mol/m²/d, so the intensity needs to be increased. I'm struggling with the environment today. It's super rainy out and it's causing the tent to be a bit too humid. The temp is fine at 75°, but the humidity is a bit high at 56%. It should be around 50% to 53%. The VPD, of course, is a bit low at 1.33 kPa. It should be above 1.40 kPa at this stage. I'll continue to fight with it for the rest of the day. Although, the forecast says rain for a few days, so that may be a pain in the ass. Don't get me wrong, the humidity will drop down in a couple hours, but the exhaust fan power is at 100%. I'd prefer it down to 50%. Less power and much quieter. Grow System Environment: Temp: 75.6° RH: 53.9% VPD: 1.36 kPa
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This is my first ever grow I have decided to go for Cash Crop from Cream Of The Crop Seeds and have made myself a DIY Aero/Hydroponic system from a few bits I picked up from site, B&Q and a pet shop so it will be interesting to see how it turns out! Happy growing 🌱
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9/3 Shook the plants off this morning and took a few pics and did a video. Let's see if it uploads. Plants are doing good. Toasted toffy is due for another plant doctor application tonight. It seems like I'm losing lots of leaves. Looking back on my other diaries I guess it's normal. BUT I could've had pest/pathogen problems then. I'm over thinking it. Toasted toffy only needs a few more weeks. It will definitely outvrun the disease. The nugs are super dense too. The plant in the 50 is loosing leaves faster than I'd like. It is also one of the furthest along. The big leaves that turn yellow look like it's a calcium/magnesium issue. The stalk and branches are all bright green and healthy looking. So are the flowers. It could be something below the soil. I couldve been overwatering but last time I waited until it drooped. It will be fine though. I'm happy with my results so far. Not my best or biggest year but I'm going to put in the work and Mae these plants produce the best quality cannabis that im able too. Also I think plant doctor may kill insects. K bicarb with dawn does too. I've found a few dead bugs like flies and pillars. Pillars actually seem to be gone. Not many moths either. Unless I see them I'm not going to treat them for it. This is that magical time where you get to watch the plant produce those beautiful flowers. Despite some small problems I'm very grateful for what I have. I've worked hard for it. 9/4 Watered everything but the sherb pie which was still heavy with leaves yellowing. It's tied for the furthest behind in flower with the seed in the 10. I treated the toasted toffy with 1/4 gallon (4tsp/gallon) of plant doctor. I avoided flowers as much as possible and tried to just get a few leaves. I used the rest on the soil. I just wanted it to absorb a little faster. That's why I sprayed the foliage. It's not 4 days it's 14 days when tje plant doctor just leaves behind a bunch of potassium and phosphorus after it's done its job. Can't be used in a 14 day interval with copper and I think that's what treats septoria best. I dontvknow if I can use that in flower. Doesn't really matter. Things are looking good. Plant Doctor and the K bicarb seem to be doing there job effectively as long as i stick to the application times. I made a short video but didn't upload. I'll try again but I may have some medical emergencies that need to be dealt with. If not I should defoliate and tie down some event horizon branches. I thought about treating the other event horizon as well. I'm not positive it has septoria but it wouldn't hurt anything to be practice. It AT LEAST has a couple suspucuous spots. I smelled a skunk as soon as I got out of my car. It can't get in my grow but I might put out traps to catch it. We'll see how it goes. Video seems to be uploading. It's at 31% so I'll wait for it. I think I've got like four or five weeks on my toasted toffy and one event horizon and the one in the 50 that I THINK is red runtz. That's good that I'll have different plants to harvest at different times. It's seeds from here on out though. It was hard to find info on some of the strains I'm growing but they all have ONE thing in common. They are EXOTIC and they are at least MODERATELY DIFFICULT to grow. AT LEAST lol. Last year I picked the right seefs and strains and it greatly helped. Still, if these are difficult strains to grow, then I'm doing a good job. EDIT: I WAS STONED BUT IM PRETTY SURE I TREATED THE PLANT IN THE 50 WITH PLANT DOCTOR. DIDNT SPRAY BUDS. TRIED TO GET THE LEAVES THEN USED THE REST ON THE SOIL. I REMEMBER BECAUSE A STREAM ACCIDENTLY HIT A COUPLE LEAVES ON THE HUGE PLANT IN THE 10. 9/5 Sherb Pie was light and drooping. It's not to far in flower and still seemed moist yesterday with a little bit of weight. I watered it a gallon. I defoliated a little but I need to go through that plant. I have a bunch of plants that need a little work. The 50 gal seed is losing lots of leaves. I must not be feeding it enough, overwatering or maybe theres some sort of lock out. The plant looks nice and healthy. Leaves just turn yellow and die. Looked like a calcium or magnesium deficiency but i saw a septoria spot. I wouldn't think I've over feed or locked out using the small amounts of nutes I've used. It will be time to feed again soon. It's in the middle of flowering and still has leaves. I'm hoping things work out. I just have an anxiety disorder and worry too much. I'm GOING To have a great harve! I just need to keep moving forward and putting in the work. 9/6 What a fucking shitty morning. I did research on how to keep skunks out of your garden. Because I smelled it and the neighbors shot a few. Dad put traps out and it caught one. It wasn't a no spray trap so I approached it with him. Both had tarps. I kept telling him to throw it while I was distracting it bur he got a cramp and only got it over half. The half away from my garden. It's pretty far and down in a field but still. We had talked all morning about how to release it. I offered to drive their dog to take it for a walk so his alcoholic girlfriend wouldn't spiteful put the dog on its run. It wouldn't be sprayed but I made it out like it would ruin my plants. Picked dad up and got him to the bathroom. In that 30 seconds the stupid bitch grabbed the dog and brought it outside despite me YELLING "Can't you wait 5 minutes!? We've been dealing with this all morning. I heard fuck you in my head and she did it anyway. Dog ran at the skunk barking and it sprayed. Not a lot but I was fucking pissed. She's a full blown alcoholic and doesn't like me around early or the fact that my old man's 80 and house is mine. Anyway I got back and there was NO SKUNK SMELL. AT ALL! I WATERED EVERYTHING BUT SHERB PIE AND FED EVERYTHING BUT SHERB PIE. ILL FEED AND WATER THAT TOMORROW. WATERED A GALLON WITH A QUART OF FEED. Researched my strains found out they were all "difficult" to grow. One year ago to the Day I cut my first tenth planet. I got a couple close to a few weeks but the others will be later. If I can pull this off though I'll have some crazy quality! Grateful for what I have that's for sure! I doubled beastie bloom this time. We'll see how it goes.nothings uploading. I did some vids a pictures but I'll have to upload today. 9/7 I think it rained last night. I forgot to water and feed the sherb pie but I'll do it when I get back. I shook off the plants the best I could. I need to get the leaf blower out now and put it to use. Buds are swelling like crazy. GMOs are very tight flowers. Same with the event horizon. Rock hard nugs. With the gmo's I'm not worried. The were monster cropped so they have enough leaves even if some do die off. The toasted toffy only has like four weeks left. Same with the event horizon. The plant in the ten is the furthest behind but it's extremely healthy. I removed some leaves from the bottom and large fan leaves. The plant in the 50 I hope finishes before it loses all its leaves. I treated it with plant doctor and SOME people strip their plants but I don't. I'm grateful for what I've got. Won't be the biggest harvest but WHEN I make it to the finish line I will have some incredibly potent strains. I'm proud of myself to even get these to finish seeingvthe level of difficulty on cultivation. I'm trying to upload some stuff. We'll see. 9/8 Apparently it rained pretty hard last night. Took forever to go through and shake everything off and defoliate what needs it. Sherb pie is praying to the sky and almost totally purple. It's flowering so much more in the last couple days. Everything has. Even the one in the ten is stacking up! I defoliated most of what needed it and I was soaked. I noticed a branch on the middle gmo that was getting heavy and starting to break away from the trunk. It wad wobbly but I don't think there was a break un the Cambrian. I made a sling with rope (couldn't find zip ties) and I pulled it tight amd secured that branch to the tomato cage. GMO buds are hard as rocks. Everything is in overdrive. They liked that beastie bloom. I have cha ching but nothings ready for that yet I don't think. We'll the event horizon and toasted toffy might be I'll have to check. It's been beautiful today but not too hot. Lots of wind which is good. I'll upgrade supports as needed. Flowers are progressing at an amazing rate. Weather is supposed to be great the next few days. I'll keep this updated. 9/9 Had to shake the plants off. WATERED EVERYTHING BUT THE SHERB PIE WHICH WAS REALLY HEAVY. It's also lost a lot of leaves and the majority of leaves have turned purple. Toasted toffy and event horizon and red runts are pretty far into flower. I tried to take some pictures. Even the ten is blowing up! That looks like I'm going to switch to cha ching when flower gets further. Trichs are developing nicely on the ones further in flower. This year it's going to be quality over quantity. All these strains are ranked HARD to grow but have insane cannabinoid profiles and high THC %'s. So if I can keep it together for another month I'll be golden. Looking forward to it. This is the fun part. It's also the anxiety provoking part. I've learned a lot just since joining grow diaries.
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Whats up everybody cheers to another week of growth for everyone! This week the ladies buds started showing signs of progress. You can see them produce more and more resin every day thanks to the cold weather its really easy to keep a pretty dry environment. Can’t wait to do my final defo next week! Until then stay green!
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Happy 4th everyone 🎆. I just returned from a 4 day family trip to Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg. I love that place and we had a lot of fun. The girls are doing great. I filled the reservoir before I left and it's was 1/4 remaining when I returned. That's one big advantage using the auto pots. If i was manual watering, i would be able to miss watering them more than a day. The posted pictures are 7 days from the last week photos. I also took a couple videos. With this being the beginning of week 5, I increased my bloom to 12ml per gallon. It's usually 9ml. I also increased my koolbloom from 3ml to 5ml per gallon. I'll go back to 9 and 3 on week 6. Thanks for looking and till next week 🙌 😀
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Flowering Day 28 So far, everything looks good, and the buds are stacking well. Today was hopefully the last time I had to supercrop. In a few days, they'll be getting compost tea again.
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Das obere Drittel wird geerntet, sehen wunderschön aus. Die Qualität wird von Grow zu Grow immer besser. Super Juicy, richtig lecker und einfach wunderschön wie aus dem Lehrbuch. Sind nun am Trocknen danach kommt der Rest ab.
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Lamentablemente no se pudieron regar por 5 días y a la vuelta estaban así
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The Bubble OG plants are looking really good. They're all pretty big and have a similar structure. It'll be fun to see how they develop their own personalities as they keep growing. Well, another year has come and gone. Yesterday was New Year's Eve, and I want to wish all of you a happy and healthy 2025. May this year bring you all the things you've been wishing for. Let's make this the best year yet!
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Quite happy with her after 9 days from germination
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very good strain to grow , very resiant, loves being trained , beautiful smell much better than I expected everyone should defo try it
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bubba cheese cake is growing will she is looking sweet in her natural state un topped or LST even going to flower early doesnt give me time enouph to get to harvesr hoping the deadline is for entering and not completing so i can compete in the contests without comming up short of harvesr wich is still close to 60 days yet.(crossing fingers). bubba cheese cake is an awsome strain to grow so far.
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Привет садоводы !!! Растение чувствует себя хорошо поливаю ее примерно плюс - минус раз в неделю , литров по 6-7 чередуя с водой и удобрениями PH 7
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Day 71. Girls are still stretching !!! Will supercrop biggest Blue Dream this Monday or maybe Sunday if i am lucky. I think next watering is on Saturday and it takes 2 days , so i can do it only before watering, less damage to plant and hopefully quicker recovery !!! But they reach sky, so no other way ! This week will be updated after main actions. Amazing run ! Day 72. Supercrop and watering day, before this - plants look amazing, but they reach sky and will go hermie in shade most of the time. Will update AFTER ... ;)) Job done ! Moved monster to the corner and supercroped her hard, left two colas untouched. Think Blue Dream #2 could need same drastic measures ;))) All girls got feed, raised lights to max. Hope stretch is over, otherwise half of harvest larva buds and i already cleared plants heavily ... One more round of defoliation for sure ! Day 75. Blue Dream took supercroping like nothing, still reduced watering on 25% for two goes, tops already standing up, leaves reverted to new horizont and hopefully no bananas !!! ;)) Girls got water with CalMag and video is straight after last round, i water in 3 rounds, 30 min inbetween, have no run off most of the time. Happy Growing !
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Pretty much been hands off. Letting drip system take care of watering, and controller and inkbird manage climate and humidity. Been weening it off nutes. From 15-1800ppm to 9 to 450 today. All cloudy now so no more feeds. Little leftovers from final res top off then straight water till the ambers show up. Aiming for few. 5-10%
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Building the RDWC set up was quite the process. A couple minor leaks, but I was able to take care of them. I'm now 11/11 in rapid rooters so I won't suggest anything else. No pre germination. I prepared the rooters, put the seeds in, and 3 days later they came up. This is my 3rd run using the same batch of 50 rapid rooters. I freeze the extras and pull them out a day before use. Thanks for stopping by! 😎