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๐Ÿ‘‘ Godfather OG โ€“ Pheno A Week 10 | The Queen Has No Patience for Empty Plates ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘‘๐Ÿ”ฅ Welcome back to another chapter of the 8ร—8 Adventure! ๐Ÿ’š๐ŸŒฑ And, well... I have to start this week's report with an apology. I did it again. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Somehow, once again, the individual photographs of our Queen have disappeared into the mysterious photographic universe. I have absolutely no idea what I did. I'm starting to suspect that Godfather OG Pheno A has personally decided that she doesn't need individual portraits anymore. She's basically saying: "You already know who I am. Look at the whole room." ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘‘ And fortunately, we do have photographs of the entire room. She's right there. Growing. Developing. Doing her thing. And honestly? She's looking beautiful. So although I don't have the individual photo collection I wanted for this week's update, I certainly haven't lost sight of her. She's still one of the girls that immediately gets my attention when I walk into the 8ร—8. She's still demanding. She's still hungry. She's still a little angry with me from time to time. ๐Ÿ˜‚ And she's still growing absolutely amazingly. So let's give this Queen the spotlight she deserves anyway. Because photographs or not... you can't really hide the Queen. ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐ŸŒฑ Week 10 โ€“ Still Growing Her Own Way Godfather OG Pheno A continues to be one of those plants that makes me stop and look. She's tall. She's strong. She's demanding. And she has absolutely no interest in behaving like everybody else in the room. That's one of the things I've enjoyed most about watching her throughout this adventure. She's never really tried to make things easy for me. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘‘ But at the same time... she keeps rewarding the attention. She's growing. She's developing. She's building flowers. She's consuming everything the environment gives her. And she's continuing to show us that very distinctive personality that we've been documenting from the beginning. The Queen may be demanding... but she's productive. And that's a pretty good combination. ๐Ÿ‘‘ Still Demanding โ€“ Still Hungry Let's talk about the elephant in the room. This girl eats. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿฝ๏ธ๐ŸŒฟ She's one of those phenotypes where I look at what we're providing and think: "Okay... that's gone already?" She's hungry. She's using the resources available to her. She's growing strongly. And she continues to give me the impression that, if given the opportunity, she'd happily sit down at the table and finish everybody else's dinner too. ๐Ÿ˜‚ This is one of the things that makes her interesting in a room containing so many different genetics. We're not running twelve completely different feeding programmes. We're giving the room a consistent foundation and observing how each plant responds. And Godfather OG Pheno A is making her response very clear: "I can use more." That's useful information. I'm watching her closely, because there's a difference between a plant that is genuinely demanding and one that is simply showing a slightly different expression. With this girl, the appetite has been remarkably consistent. And yet... she keeps growing beautifully. So the Queen remains on the watch list. ๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ‘‘ ๐ŸŒฟ The Anger Is Part of the Personality ๐Ÿ˜‚ She's still a little angry. I'm not even going to argue with her anymore. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Some plants politely ask. Some plants quietly suggest. Godfather OG Pheno A seems to send official royal correspondence. "I require more." ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘‘๐Ÿ“œ But underneath the drama, what matters is that she's continuing to develop extremely well. She's not sitting there stalled. She's not giving up. She's not stopping. She's actively building. And that's why I continue to find her so fascinating. She can challenge me while simultaneously showing me that she's perfectly capable of turning that environment into growth. That's a phenotype worth paying attention to. ๐ŸŒธ The Flowers Keep Moving Forward And even without her individual close-up photographs this week, the wider room images still give us something important. She's flowering beautifully. The structures continue developing. The flowers are becoming more established. And the plant is moving deeper into the stage where all that earlier structural growth starts paying off. This is where I really enjoy looking back through the diary. Because the plant we saw earlier in the run isn't the same plant we're looking at now. The framework is already there. The branches are established. The flowering sites have developed. And now we're watching those sites become increasingly meaningful flowers. She's doing exactly what I want to see from her. Not necessarily behaving perfectly... but developing beautifully. And honestly? I'll take that every time. ๐Ÿ’ก The Queen Is Catching Photons And once again, we have to talk about photons. Because this week, more than ever, I find myself thinking about the relationship between this girl's appetite and the amount of light she's receiving. Every second that the lights are running, photons are moving through the canopy. We can't see them. But the plant can use them. Leaves intercept that light. Photosynthetic machinery converts that captured energy into chemical energy. And that energy supports the enormous collection of processes happening inside the plant. Growth. Maintenance. Water movement. Development. Flower formation. Everything is connected. And Godfather OG Pheno A appears to be making a serious effort to capture as many of those photons as possible. โ˜€๏ธ๐Ÿ’ก๐ŸŒฟ She's got a large structure. She's got plenty of foliage. She's got flowers distributed through that structure. And she's hungry for resources. So when I look at her, I don't just see a tall flowering plant. I see a three-dimensional photon-capturing machine. And she's working. โ˜€๏ธ More Than Just Light From Above The lighting philosophy in this room is also about more than simply throwing photons at the top of the canopy. The main Black Series LEDs provide the primary illumination. Then we have additional lighting helping reach areas deeper inside the plants and lower down in the canopy. That matters because a plant like Godfather OG Pheno A isn't a perfectly flat surface. She's tall. She's layered. She's got branches occupying different heights. She's got flowers positioned at different angles. So the photons entering the room encounter a complex three-dimensional structure. Some are intercepted immediately. Others travel deeper. Some reach lower areas. Some are absorbed by leaves. Some pass through gaps. And that's part of what makes the lighting environment so interesting in this project. We're not just lighting a canopy. We're illuminating a jungle. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿ’ก ๐Ÿ’ก Photons + Plant Architecture This is also where genetics become fascinating. Two plants can receive essentially the same lighting environment... and use it completely differently. A compact phenotype creates one type of canopy. A tall phenotype creates another. An open plant allows photons to travel differently from a dense one. And Godfather OG Pheno A has built herself a very particular architecture. She's tall. She's substantial. She's got plenty happening throughout the vertical space. And she's clearly making use of it. That's why I don't want to look at the lighting only as a number. I want to look at the relationship between: ๐Ÿ’ก Light ๐ŸŒฟ Architecture ๐Ÿƒ Leaf area ๐ŸŒธ Flower distribution ๐Ÿ’จ Air movement ๐ŸŒก๏ธ Environment โš—๏ธ Nutrition All of these things interact. And this Queen is giving us a particularly interesting example of what happens when a hungry phenotype gets access to a stable environment and plenty of photons. ๐ŸŒธ She's Turning Light Into Something Beautiful And that's ultimately what we're watching. The photons themselves aren't the interesting part. The interesting part is what the plant does with them. We see the result in the leaves. We see it in the growth. We see it in the developing flowers. We see it in the overall structure. The invisible becomes visible. And when I walk into the room and see Godfather OG Pheno A continuing to develop, that's what I think about. All that light. All that captured energy. All those resources. Being turned into a living, flowering plant. That's pretty damn cool. ๐Ÿ’ก๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿ‘‘ ๐ŸŒฟ Still the Queen of Her Own Space She's also maintaining that unmistakable presence she's had throughout the grow. At around 169 cm, she's one of the taller girls in the room. And she uses that height. She doesn't just occupy vertical space. She fills it. The structure gives her plenty of places to develop flowers, while her foliage continues supporting the plant. She's not trying to be compact. She's not trying to imitate another phenotype. She's simply being Godfather OG Pheno A. And that's exactly what I want from this experiment. I don't want twelve identical plants. I want twelve stories. And this Queen has certainly given us one. ๐Ÿ’จ Keeping the Environment Working With Her As the flowers continue developing, maintaining the relationship between the canopy and the environment becomes increasingly important. A large plant creates its own little weather system inside the canopy. Leaves transpire. Air moves. Humidity changes locally. Temperature interacts with the surrounding environment. And all of those factors matter more as flowering structures become larger. So the objective remains the same: keep the room stable and allow the plant to work. Good air movement. Consistent environmental conditions. Appropriate light. Stable root-zone conditions. And observation. We're not trying to micromanage every leaf. We're trying to maintain a system where the plant can do what it has clearly decided to do. Grow. Flower. Eat. And apparently complain. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘‘ โš—๏ธ Feeding โ€“ The Queen Still Wants Seconds The shared nutrition strategy remains: ๐ŸŒฑ Plagron Terra Bloom โ€“ 2.2 ml/L ๐ŸŒฑ Green Sensation โ€“ 1 ml/L ๐ŸŒฑ Power Buds โ€“ 1 ml/L ๐ŸŒฑ Sugar Royal โ€“ 1 ml/L โš—๏ธ pH adjustment as required Current room values remain around: pH ~6.0 EC ~2.0 mS/cm And once again, Godfather OG Pheno A is making it clear that she's one of the hungrier phenotypes in the room. I'm not going to turn that observation into an automatic recipe change. The plant gets watched as a whole. Her growth. Her flowers. Her foliage. Her overall progression. Her response over time. But yes... if plants could talk, I have a feeling this one would be asking for a larger menu. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿฝ๏ธ๐Ÿ‘‘ ๐ŸŒก๏ธ The Room Remains Her Foundation The environment continues to sit around: ๐ŸŒก๏ธ Day temperature: ~29.9ยฐC ๐ŸŒ™ Night temperature: ~25ยฐC ๐Ÿ’ง RH: ~60% โš—๏ธ pH: ~6.0 โšก EC: ~2.0 mS/cm ๐Ÿ’ฆ Solution temperature: ~25ยฐC ๐ŸŒฑ Substrate temperature: ~26ยฐC ๐Ÿ’จ COโ‚‚: ~639 ppm ๐Ÿ’ก Light schedule: 12/12 ? Pot: 15 L ๐Ÿ’ง Watering: ~1.4 L/plant/24h And once again, the numbers are only part of the story. The real story is the response. And her response is: I'm growing. That's what I want to hear. ๐Ÿ“ธ Yes... I Lost Her Photos Again. ๐Ÿ˜‚ Okay. Let's address this properly. I'm sorry. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ“ธ๐Ÿ‘‘ Somehow, the individual photographs of Godfather OG Pheno A from last week and this week seem to have ended up together, somewhere, in some folder that apparently exists in another dimension. I have photographs of the other girls. Plenty of them. The whole room is documented. She's visible in those wider photographs. But her dedicated individual photographs? Gone. Again. I genuinely have no idea how I managed this twice. So to everybody following her diary: my true apologies. ๐Ÿ’š I know the individual photographs are an important part of these weekly updates, especially when we're documenting a phenotype separately. And I promise: Next week, the Queen gets her portrait session. No excuses. No mysterious folders. No photographic disappearances. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ“ธ๐Ÿ‘‘ I'm putting her back on the priority list. ๐ŸŒฟ But Look at Her in the Jungle The good news is that the wider room photographs still show something important. She's there. She's growing. She's developing. And she's looking beautiful. Sometimes seeing the plant within the whole ecosystem actually tells us something that a close-up can't. You see her relationship with the surrounding plants. You see the scale. You see the canopy. You see where she sits inside the room. And you can appreciate how much structure she's built. So while I'm definitely disappointed that I don't have her individual photographs... I'm not disappointed with the plant. Not even remotely. She's doing fantastic. ๐Ÿ”ฌ Another Week of Phenotype Hunting This is another week where Godfather OG Pheno A reminds me why this project exists. We're not trying to make every plant behave identically. We're watching how they respond to a shared foundation. And this girl has given us a very clear identity. She's: ๐Ÿ‘‘ Tall ๐Ÿฝ๏ธ Hungry ๐ŸŒฟ Vigorous ๐ŸŒธ Productive ๐Ÿ’ก Light-hungry ๐Ÿ˜‚ Demanding ๐Ÿ”ฅ Beautiful And somehow... she continues to make me smile every time I check on her. Even when she's angry. Especially when she's angry. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘‘ Because the challenge is part of the personality. ๐Ÿ”ฎ Where Does the Queen Go From Here? That's the question now. She's already established herself. She's already shown us her appetite. She's already shown us her structure. She's already shown us that she's capable of developing beautiful flowers. Now I want to see what happens as those flowers continue to mature. How much more will they develop? How will her aroma progress? How will her resin expression develop? How will the overall plant finish? And perhaps most importantly... how much more food is this woman going to ask for? ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿฝ๏ธ I honestly don't know. And I'm perfectly happy with that. We'll watch. We'll document. We'll adapt when necessary. And we'll let her tell us. ๐Ÿ’ญ Final Thoughts โ€“ The Queen Doesn't Need a Portrait to Rule So... Week 10. No individual photographs. Again. I'm sorry. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ’š But the Queen is still here. She's still standing tall. She's still demanding. She's still hungry. She's still capturing photons. She's still developing flowers. And she's still looking absolutely beautiful. The wider photographs show her within the jungle. The environment is stable. The lighting is doing its job. The photons keep flying. And this girl keeps catching as many as she possibly can. She's eating everything she can. She's growing everything she can. She's taking the environment we've given her and turning it into her own expression. And honestly? I couldn't ask for a more interesting phenotype to follow. She doesn't make things boring. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘‘ So this week, even without the individual portraits... the spotlight remains firmly on her. Because she deserves it. And next week? I promise. Portraits. The Queen is getting her photographs back. ๐Ÿ“ธ๐Ÿ‘‘๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ™ Thank You As always, thank you so much to everyone following the 8ร—8 Adventure. ๐Ÿ’š๐ŸŒฑ Thank you to GrowDiaries for giving us the space to document these individual journeys and share the experience with growers around the world. Thank you to Zamnesia for the Godfather OG genetics and for giving us the opportunity to discover what these different phenotypes can become. Thank you to Plagron for the growing media and nutrition supporting the room. Thank you to Future of Grow LED for powering this jungle and keeping those photons flying. ๐Ÿ’กโ˜€๏ธ๐ŸŒฟ Thank you to LumiFlora for helping bring additional light into the inner and lower areas of the canopy. Thank you to TrolMaster for helping us keep the environment under control behind the scenes. And finally... thank you to everyone following along. Every comment. Every question. Every message. Every person stopping by to see what the girls are doing. It genuinely means a lot. This adventure continues to be one of the most enjoyable learning experiences I've had. Twelve different genetic stories. One shared environment. One jungle. And so many personalities. And Godfather OG Pheno A? She's still one of the loudest characters in the room. She may be angry. She may be demanding. She may eat everything in sight. She may have fired her photographer two weeks in a row. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ“ธ But she's also growing beautifully. She's developing beautiful flowers. She's catching photons. She's using the environment. And she's becoming more and more herself every week. So let's give the Queen her spotlight. Let's let her shine. Let's keep those photons flying. And let's see where this hungry, demanding, beautiful girl takes us next. ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŒฟ๐Ÿ’ก๐ŸŒธ๐Ÿ”ฅ Growers Love, my friends. ๐Ÿ’š๐ŸŒฑ And I promise... next week, the Queen gets her damn photographs. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ“ธ๐Ÿ‘‘
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Two plants are on the 29th day of flowering and the other two are on the 22nd. I started giving pk 13/14 to plants that entered their 5th week.
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Not much to say apart from the Auto Wedding Cake is budding along really nicely, by the smell I can see why this strain is called Wedding Cake. Definitely can't wait to have a smoke of this. Happy Growing guys
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Our friends at Zamnesia have been working on strains for years and although they are great lovers of experimentation, novelties and know how to keep up with the times like few others, they also know the value of traditions and historical pieces, Blue Dream is one of these, great quality in genetics and stability in fact the plants started very well. In this diary you will find the plant worked with the techniques in this case the first topping was carried out, we cleaned everything else creating the Mainfold and we are going to work everything with the main lining. We are at the first topping and we have two mini branches growing. The other one you can find in the diary alongside worked without the application of techniques that involve cuts to preserve its speed. Comparison is the salt of experience. We have started the Plagron fertilization program, we are in 100% organic configuration, the soil is recycled Promix + 1/3 fresh soil + 10% Perlite + RQS Mycorrhiza Mix (4gr in the mix, 1 gr under the small fiber pot). We are administering // 1 ml/l of Power Roots - 1 ml/l of Pure Zym - 1 ml/l of Sugar Royal - 3 ml/l of Alga Grow I have doubts about the compatibility of Pure Zym with mycorrhizae. If in doubt, ask the experts, do not mix too much at random. https://plagron.com/en Doubts about Pure Zym / Mycorrhizae compatibility have been dispelled, they can go well together according to Plagron experts. If someone tells you that enzymes eat mycorrhizae, which in principle may seem possible, explain to them that it is not true. https://www.royalqueenseeds.it/growing/452-easy-roots-mix-di-micorrhize.html Try this strain it promises more than good ---- // https://www.zamnesia.io/en/3271-zamnesia-seeds-blue-dream-feminized.html Short Description Zamnesia // Exceptionally tasty and potent, Blue Dream by Zamnesia Seeds is a hybrid with a distinctive and sophisticated character. A blend of Haze and Blueberry strains that manages to bring out the best of both worlds. Its short flowering time of just 9 weeks far surpasses other Haze strains! You can find the whole world of growing at Zamnesia and much more take a tour of the site and you will find "all the best that nature has to offer" in various shapes and colors. The new strains are exceptional and the old ones are no different... p.s. for now zero Hermaphrodites, growers can you say the same? ---- // www.zamnesia.com
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continued with LST but reduced defoliation, only did one bigger chopping, noticed the first signs of pre-flower so Iโ€™m planning on removing the LST-constraints in the near future
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Overall Iโ€™m very happy to end my first run like this. I think I made a pretty decent job and I canโ€™t wait to try the finished product after curing. Happy growing everyone! ๐Ÿ€๐ŸŒฑ
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Not much do do this week. Training is mostly done. Don't really have anything to trim as was doing it as I went along. Just need to keep an eye on her. She's starting to flower but it looks like dimming the light affected the stretch. Day 37 - some mild defoliation Day 39 - looks like she's done with her stretch but hopefully she'll grow a bit more.
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No stress at all. growing like crazy๐ŸคชโœŒ๏ธ๐Ÿป He will have to practice again this week. ( 5.12.2022.) Defoliation was done once again today (7.12.2022) I would like to thank CannapediaGrowersCup for the lights (mars hydro ts1000) and for help.
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11/19 Week 8 Still building, no signs of slowing down though leaves are fading. 11/20 Can anyone say rainbow sherbet? Absolutely candy here 11/22 Fed Bio-Bloom 7 ml / CaliMagic 4ml / Recharge 0.5 tsp per gallon PH 6.5 We had a oops and the room overheated for about an hour or so and may be some foxtailing due to that. Nothing for it now
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Corrected a few minor issues and she seems to be getting on well now. Hopefully i should see some steady and quick growth few minor problems at the start with light leaks causing algae but quickly rectified. Roots are looking healthy and are reaching through to the water. Back with an update soon. Day 26 - well on her way now, growth occuring everyday, currently at 1.32 EC and around 6.1 pH. Roots have exploded since two days ago. If i kerp this going garvest time will be the best ive ever had and ive had some good harvests in soil/coco. But yeah, very please so far. Updaye soon Day 27 - Dropped the EC slightly down to 1.28 as she was looking a bit toxic, pH seems more stable now but might lower the EC again slightly. Ill see how it goes for now.
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Day 78,79 - Just sat and admired her Day 80 - Gave her last dose of water Day 81,82,83 - Just sat around waiting for her to dry out so I can chop'er down Day 84 - CHOP CHOP Other Thoughts: Her last dose of water was actually a flush, with 5 Gallons of water. I wanted to see more amber trichomes but I ran outta time, the next run is ready to transplant up
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This is the start for week 9 and got to doing some last training and ended up splitting the middle stem, that end up with her got into shock unfortunately, she don't seem to understand happy but we will see
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Overall it was a good harvest, it could have been much better if I hadn't switched to the Cultivator Series line... But as soon as my order arrives I'll be back to Athena again ๐Ÿ™Œ
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Well I chopped this lady today at week 11 day 5 she smells and looks fantastic Smoke review : The hit is very smooth due too the extra long flush I did , and although the smell isn't great yet because it's now right at the start of cure , It's a nice body glow with an intense head trip with a mellow bubble , And that is after a small bong , I really like it , I would recommend growing this and would grow again , thanks for reading and following if that was you , Stay medicated and be bless Jah Rastafari blessing and love And the buds are nice and dense , will update once dry and cured :)
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semana del 21 de marzo al 27 de marzo 2026. debido a que tuvo estres por contaminaciรณn lumรญnica decidรญ en reducir una hora de luz, quedando en 13 horas de obscuridad x 11 de luz.
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Day 11: We have: 3x White Widow 1x Critical 2x Special Queen #1 1x Special Kush #1 Important: The method used "jiffy" is efficient and fast but in another possible germination I will definitely do the "paper towel" method first. It is important to note that for good germination, the seeds must have as little soil as possible on top, where I delayed by 1 week due to the fact that the seed was very deep in a jiffy. I reduced the distance of the LED from 60cm to 30cm because we still have plants that are stretching too much so this was the measure adopted awaiting results. For 8 pots of 0.5L, 500ml of pure water containing: 1ml Voodoo Juice 1ml Sensi Grow A+B (2ml total) 1ml B52 2ml CalMag The net proportion was satisfactory.
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This was the final week. I had no choice to harvest early because pm was starting to settle on a lot of stuff in my garden. The UV light worked for like a day or two and it came back. It's just not worth it. It turned a lot of the buds hairs brown and the leaves did suffer a little damage. Part of that was the peroxide solution. I mixed a little too strong, and it didn't seem like it hurt the plants, but after a few days, they showed the damage. It just seem to burn the leaves a little not really the bud so that's good. There was three days of rain coming, so I wanted to get it cut down.I didn't intend on harvesting so early, and I have no place to dry this because other plants drying so I was forced into freezing it. I cut down branches and wet trimmed it into a bin and ran to the freezer every 10 minutes to get it frozen right away. I maybe could've dried it and had some decent flower but I figured this would be a good opportunity to learn about making bubble hash. I decided I wanted a stainless steel mixing vessel and found this beer brewer for a good price. I think it's gonna be solid. It has a nice drain at the bottom. Then I bought some 5 gallon buckets for spacers for my 5 gallon bubble bags I use the heat gun to peel the stickers off and to heat the bottoms up to make it a little easier to cut them out with the utility knife. I used the heat gun again to soften the edges a little bit so I don't damage my bags. I can't do my washes until I'm done trimming my flowers, but I got a 2 Inkbird temperature controllers to bring my studio down to bubble hash temperatures with my ac unit. I could wait a little longer until it gets colder but I'm not sure how cold it's really gonna get and I wanna get this done soon as I can. I'm gonna have to try it without a freeze dryer so that should be fun and I'm not going to micro plane it at all costs. I got 25 ยตm screens for drying that I will use a towel to wear most of the moisture out then see if it on to some parchment and I should be able to get my studio really cold and dry to get it dried relatively quickly. I'm seeing it recommended to be 30 to 40% humidity and 50ยฐ or so for about a week and it should be dry enough to press some rosin. I'm gonna try to separate out the full melt hash, but honestly I think I'm just gonna get a wide spectrum pool on this hash and just press it into rosin to make it easier to deal with. I kind of was trying to find the cheapest bags it's still decent and wasn't paying attention when I bought it really cause there's no 45 ยตm and my set and I'm saying that to be the lowest recommended the pool but also seeing a lot of people pulling some nice 25 ยตm so I think with my early harvest I might have some smaller truck head so I might not be a bad thing to have that bag as my lowest. I'm going to catch everything under 160 to 25.
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Still stacking up grapefruit is not as impressive as gorilla glue and strawberry pie. One of my Vivusun 315 watt CMH ballasts stopped working after only a monthโ€™s use. Iโ€™m trying to get a replacement but the company is making me jump hoops for warranty. I have had a Topolite 630w CMH for three years and itโ€™s still working great. I cut lights down to 12/12 to see if grapefruit will start to stack up. The smell is definitely getting stronger with the sticky strawberry pie being the strongest.