Au 63e jour, tout semble se dérouler sans accroc, à l'exception d'une de nos gorillas qui, de manière inattendue, a vu ses feuilles jaunir et se flétrir en seulement trois jours. Cet incident mystérieux reste inexpliqué, surtout que sa consœur, bénéficiant exactement du même traitement, prospère sans le moindre signe de mécontentement. Heureusement, notre protagoniste végétal se décide enfin à concentrer ses efforts sur le développement de ses précieuses têtes, marquant le terrain avec l'apparition des premiers trichomes. Cette attente, teintée d'impatience, ouvre déjà les portes à une nouvelle aventure qui se profile à l'horizon d'ici, je l'espère, 2 semaines. Remarque : engrais au 3/4 de la dose recommandée. Une gorilla a vu toutes ses feuilles jaunir rapidement que j'ai defolié. L'autre se porte très bien. Peut être un champignon 🍄 Arrosage a l'eau claire pour voir le comportement des 2 par la suite.

Over all it was a hell of a ride, but a good one. My first grow ever learned so much and still learning. Started with 4 plants ended with 3. One of them was mutated or something during veg so decided to pull. This strain grew strong and thrived the whole time. I learned a lot about ph and air flow and VPD still learning and trying to find that sweet spot! I loved getting to know these girls it’s crazy how plants talk to you! Also watching these girls flower and bloom! Into some sweet sticky dank yummy nuggs was amazing such a good feeling! Emm Over all I’m happy with 3 oz ready to keep on growing more and learn to get a better yeild! Super thankful and happy growing

Week 7 This lady is filling out nicely. She looks like she has at least 2 weeks left at this point. Her tent mate only has a week or so. Cooler internals; 5.9pH 350 ppm 66F I can’t wait to see this plant really chunk up in the next few weeks.

Holaaa Hoy día 43 desde la germinación retomamos el seguimiento a estás señoritas. Altura Sweet gelato auto 81 CM Altura Cmxl1 62 CM Altura Cmxl2 60 CM Hoy se realiza riesgo de 1 Lt , la Sweet gelato ha demostrado más signos de mayor requerimiento de agua, por lo que aumentarle la frecuencia de riego para esta planta. Me sorprende que la Sweet gelato auto ha crecido lentamente, alcanzando una altura considerable de XL, y ahora que ha entrado en floracion, se siente ese gran aroma dulce. Comienza la cuenta regresiva para las Cream Mandarine, cada día se aprecian mayor tamaño de las flores . Día 45. Riego con 1 Lt por planta Día 47 Altura Sweet gelato auto 89 CM Altura Cmxl1 67 Altura Cmxl2 60 Dia 48 Riego 1Lt por planta Aportes, sugerencias, favor comentar.

There was nothing special to mention on that stage. Growing proceeded as normal.

12/27/21 Start of Week 4 , Growth has started again from transplant , Watered 1ltr of Nutrient water to each.12/30/21 watered 1250ml of nutrient water each, plants have really started growing again. Thinking from germination threw week 2 both the ts600 and the ts3000 were too close and too powerful , just from my observation of growth, something to try on my next grow. Added video and pictures.

This week has been a little better. Recovering from the ph and phosphorus deficiency issues. New growth has been a little better. Finally got rid of the crispy leaves from the deficiencies. I knew I was getting into a tough one with 200 ml of dirt. I just wanted to see what happened. I have learned a lot on this one. Buds are getting a little bigger each day. Merry Christmas and frosty buds to all.

------------------------------------ ~SEEDSMAN PEYOTE GORILLA~ ------------------------------------ Peyote Gorilla is a cross of Gorilla Glue #4 (Chem Sister x Chocolate Diesel) and Peyote Purple, a colorful phenotype of Bubba Kush. The potent, medicinal effect of the Gorilla meets the stimulating and uplifting high of the Peyote Purple. With a flowering time of around 70 days Peyote Gorilla has a typically Indica structure, medium-sized with large, broad leaves. Yields are exceptionally good; indoors growers can expect to yield between 500 - 650 gr/m2 while outdoors as much as 1500 gr/m2 can be realized. Resin levels are very high and this means that it is very suitable for making extracts and concentrates with. This strain's scent is sour with lemon, petrol, earthy and woody notes and these properties are reflected back in the taste. THC production is very high at between 22 - 26% with CBD at just 1%. The effect is a very potent, uplifting high which gradually evolves into a physically relaxing state that will be almost certain to ease any aches and pains. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ -Strain Characteristics- BREEDER/BRAND: Seedsman PRODUCT TYPE: Seeds THC GENETICS: Gorilla Glue #4 (Chem Sister x Chocolate Diesel) x Peyote Purple (Bubba Kush purple pheno) VARIETY: Mostly Indica FLOWERING TYPE: Photoperiod SEX: Feminised THC CONTENT: 22 - 26% CBD CONTENT: 1% YIELD: Indoor: 450-600 g/m2; Outdoor: 1500 gr/plant PLANT HEIGHT: 80-160 cm GROWS: Indoors, Outdoors FLOWERING TIME: 70 days HARVEST MONTH: September MEDICAL CONDITIONS: Fatigue, Insomnia, Pain, Stress TASTE / FLAVOR: Berry, Earthy, Fruity, Petrol, Sweet EFFECT: Euphoric, Powerful, Relaxing, Uplifting _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ THE SETUP: ~Planted into Jiffy Peat Pellets that were hydrated with de-chlorinated water with SuperThrive added then ph'd to 6.0 @ 80℉ ~Grown 100% organic in 10g fabric pots with Mother Earth 70/30 Coco/Perlite medium amended with 2tbs/g of Down To Earth 4-4-4 / 2 cups/g of Earthworm Castings / 1tbs/g of Dr. Earth Flower Girl 3-9-4, 1tbs/g of Dr. Earth Bat Guano, 3/4 cup of Down To Earth Azomite and 1 tsp/g Down To Earth Fish Bone Meal. ~24hr light cycle during Germination / 19/5 light cycle for Vegetation and 12/12 for Flower ~Straight water ph'd @ 6.2-6.8 when needed and weekly Compost Tea's. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Weekly Updates:9/20- 💥BOOM!💥 Week Six of flower is here and my girl's in high gear, stacking her flowers and pumping out trichomes! Today I watered her with 1.5g de-chlorinated water with 5ml/g of Botanicare CalMag+ added, then ph'd to 6.2 @ 72℉. I turned her pot and plucked a couple of yellow shade leaves...the basic daily maintenance. 9/22- I didn't water her yesterday as she looked great and was 'praying' hard. Today she was given 1.5g of de-chlorinated water which was ph'd to 6.2 @ 72℉ which I gave her through her drip pan (bottom chuggin) and I also gave her pot a turn. She continues to pile on the trichomes and is taking on a exquisite purple hue to her flowers! She is definitely one of the most photogenic cultivar's I've grown and is looking lovelier by the day! 😍 9/24- We're getting close to wrapping up Week Six of flower in a couple of days and she'll be around four more weeks from finishing, with the most exciting weeks yet to come! I didn't water yesterday and today I went ahead and Top Dressed her with 2 tbsp/g Dr. Earth Flower Girl 3-9-4, 1 tbsp/g Dr. Earth Gold Premium 4-4-4, 1/2 cup Down To Earth Bio-Fish, 1/3 cup Down To Earth High Phosphorus Bat Guano and 2 cups of Worm Castings. I watered in the Top Dress with 1.5g of de-chlorinated water which was ph'd to 6.2 @ 72℉ and let her enjoy her meal! 😜 9/26- After her heavy watering on the 24th I didn't water yesterday and when I checked her today at 'lights on' and she still had some weight to her pot and her leaves were praying hard so I held off on watering today and will hit her tomorrow with her usual 1.5g watering. ~Thanks for stopping in! Things should be getting a lot more interesting in the coming weeks...Stay lifted and be Blessed! 😎🙏~

I'm just gunna post videos until things get interesting, I'm not winning any awards anytime soon anyways on here but when it counts In the last few weeks I'll do the pics. Its day 31 here and everything looks pretty good.

day22 video. now adding more pk booster than earlier weeks, should be done week 7-8 we will see day23 I start adding more pk, still will 4x more pk now. Some nice pics today, videos of each, frost on fan leafs, no issues other than pros: bridal frost on fan leafs+sugar, cons 6ft tall. I think I should have pumped more pk earlier into flower/pre Its cool. Adding 2tbsp soluble pk into 5gal vs quarter tbsp in beginning 22 days ago. I am feeding soluble pk, +3 pk soil conditioners and carbs every day. There is no water day. day 25 stacking up. been spraying old cs I made 3ish years ago to test, works on unrooted so I may potential cross. Bridal starting to smell like a mix between fresh watermelon, and lemon+lime or a citrus aroma.

Woche 10 Die Blüten werden mittlerweile dicker und dichter, also machen wir ihr diese Woche richtig Luft um Schimmel, Mehltau und anderen Unannehmlichkeiten die Tour zu vermiesen. Einen Umzug ins neuerdings teilautomatisierte DIY Zelt gab es anschließend auch noch.

No sings of flowering yet. Maybe I messed up this auto with the rough initial conditions. This week they received a nutrient solution made by myself including NPK levels (for transition) and silicon. The 18hr light cycle has been an estimate of what they’ve been getting naturally.

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5° Semana- Aeroponía - Están muy bellas las raíces, están 100% sanas. Se realiza poda apical al quinto nodo,una pequeña defoliación y luego se aplica LST a las más grandes, muy contento con el crecimiento actual. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5th Week- Aeroponics - The roots are very beautiful, they are 100% healthy. The fifth node is topped, and a little defoliation and then LST is applied to the largest ones, very happy with the current growth.

Day 8 Another day, another cm of vertical growth. The Blumat Digitals showed that the soil moisture was still in an ok range (115-131 mbar) but the topsoil was a bit dry so I sprayed each plant with 1 liter of water (pH 6.3). Day 9 The leaves are getting wider with no additional vertical growth. The right plant is noticeably larger but both look healthy. Day 10 Plants are a bit wider but all in all pretty uneventful. Day 11 Another day of the plants are getting wider but no vertical growth. The cover crop on the other hand has been growing quite a bit so I trimmed it down a bit. Day 12 The Blumat Digitals showed that the soil moisture was in the 114-162 mbar range so I gave each plant around 1.3 liters of water. Dumb as I am I forgot to pH the water though so I guess it was around 8.0 as that is where my water normally is. Oh well, gotta remember it next time. I also removed the humidity domes as the leaves of both plants started to touch the side of the domes. Day 13 The right plant is clearly larger than the left plant, being both 25% taller and 40% wider. Let's see how it progresses from here, maybe one plant is simply slower or maybe it's a different phenotype. Day 14 Not much to report except that the right plant is still growing at a fast rate while the left plant is creeping along. My girlfriend was transplanting our tomato plants today so I put a few in the tent as there was some extra space. I sure hope though I didn't bring in any silly bugs into the tent. Oh well, let's see... We keep the rest of the tomatoes and chilies under a ViparSpectra light in our front room until the weather finally gets good enough to move all the peppers and tomatoes outside.

Good! Hope she fattens good!! Cut the lowest 2 branches into clones, wanted them gone anyway. They already flowering though, so not expecting much BLOOM lights on, 12-12 lights

The clones are coming along nicely. They have quite a bit of new growth. I am now leaving the bubble off of the Clone box all the time now. I had to make a makeshift nursery for the time being because my other girls are occupying my grow tent at this time. once that's done I'll be able to bring them over and give him plenty of light but until then I'm stuck with what you see here. I'm still waiting on my lite from winning second place in the tutorial competition. Once I get that I would be able to replace my blurple lights in the nursery with the Mars light I hope everyone grows are doing awesomely! Cheers! -G.I.JOSE

🌌 Cosmic Noodles Week 8 From Seed (Week 4 Flower — 12/12 From Seed) ⸻ How Did We Get Here? These girls have been on 12/12 from seed. No veg phase. No long structural preparation. No topping cycles. No extended shaping. They expressed themselves naturally — and we simply guided them. We are calling this Week 4 Flower based on visible floral development, even though biologically it’s Week 8 from seed. Two phenotypes. Two structural expressions. Two approaches. And this week… two very different stories. ⸻ 👑 Plant #1 — “The Big Walla” (No Test) She is exactly what a healthy plant should look like under pressure: • Deep, lush green • Aggressive bud stacking • Strong apical dominance but with lateral competition • Defoliation response? Like nothing happened. • In and out of the studio — no stress expression • Structural integrity intact She had light low-stress training, nothing extreme. Just guidance. You can see in the time-lapse frames how robust she is. She’s not surviving the environment. She’s thriving in it. This is our control plant. ⸻ Plant #2 — The Overwatering Test (Autoflower) Now the real talk. This plant was intentionally overwatered. She was left sitting in runoff water for approximately 36 hours. Immediate reaction. Within that window: • Drooping leaves • Loss of turgor pressure • Slowed metabolism • Oxygen deprivation at root zone • Visual stress expression This is what root hypoxia looks like. After 36 hours, we elevated her and drained everything. Now we’re seeing: • Necrotic leaf tissue • Some dead lower leaves • But… white pistils still pushing • Bud development continuing She’s stressed. But she’s not done. ⸻ 🌱 Why Overwatering Is Worse Than Underwatering Underwatering: • Roots search for moisture • Oxygen availability increases • Root mass expands • Enzymes help break down dead root matter • Temporary droop, usually reversible Overwatering: • Roots suffocate • Anaerobic conditions form • Microbial imbalance can develop • Nutrient uptake becomes impaired • Tissue death can occur Water fills pore spaces in soil. No air = no oxygen = no respiration. Roots breathe. When they can’t — the whole plant pays for it. And with an autoflower, recovery window is shorter. A photoperiod could be vegged longer to recover. An auto? Clock is ticking. ⸻ Environment — Playing on the Edge (But Controlled) Current room conditions: • Canopy Temp: ~28°C • RH: ~70% • CO₂: 1000+ ppm • PPFD: 800 → 1300 µmol/m²/s On paper, 28°C + 70% RH sounds high. But here’s the key: Massive Airflow We have: • Strong horizontal airflow • Vertical movement • Air exchange • Under-canopy circulation Airflow changes everything. ⸻ 🍃 Leaf VPD vs Room VPD Room VPD at 28°C / 70% RH is moderate-high humidity. But leaf temperature under strong light + airflow is often slightly higher than ambient. This increases transpiration. Add 1000+ ppm CO₂: • Stomata don’t need to open as wide • Photosynthesis rate increases • Plants tolerate higher humidity • Metabolic rate remains high This is why they’re thriving. We are pushing high PPFD — up to 1300 µmol in larger tops — but only where plant size can handle it. Smaller plants receive ~800 µmol. Light intensity is scaled to structure. ⸻ 💡 Lighting Strategy We are running: • Top lighting • Under-canopy lighting • End-of-day red (15 minutes) Let’s break this down. ⸻ 🔦 Under-Canopy Lighting — Why? Purpose: • Illuminate lower bud sites • Reduce larf • Stimulate lower photosynthesis • Improve uniformity • Reduce shading stress We are not trying to replace top light. We are supplementing energy where dense canopy blocks photons. It also improves airflow around lower sites because buds stay active and not shaded/degrading. ⸻ 🔴 End-of-Day Red (15 Minutes After Lights Off) We run 15 minutes of red spectrum at lights-off. Why? Phytochrome manipulation. Plants have two main light-sensitive phytochrome states: • Pr (red-absorbing) • Pfr (far-red absorbing) Red light converts phytochrome into its active Pfr state. When lights go off, Pfr slowly converts back to Pr in darkness. By giving a short red pulse: • We influence phytochrome equilibrium • Potentially enhance flowering signaling • Encourage elongation control • Improve transition consistency It does not extend photoperiod. It manipulates light signaling. We are experimenting — not claiming magic. But we document everything. ⸻ 🌱 EC & Feeding Soil EC: 0.9 Feed EC: 2.4 This tells us: They are eating aggressively. If runoff EC stays stable and doesn’t climb, we maintain feed strength. High metabolic demand requires high input. But we monitor carefully. If soil EC begins rising? We adjust immediately. ⸻ Structural Differences Plant #1: • Slight LST • Strong lateral competition • Dense but controlled canopy Plant #2: • Some training • More natural expression • Slightly smoother, smaller phenotype Even genetics within the same strain express differently. And that’s the beauty of 12/12 from seed. You see who they truly are. ⸻ 🔮 What This Week Represents This week is about: • Stress response • Root health • Environmental boundaries • Recovery observation • Real learning Not hype. Not perfection. Reality. ⸻ 📅 What to Expect Next Week For the Big Walla: • Continued stacking • Increased resin production • Structural thickening • Possibly slight nutrient demand increase For the Overwatered One: • Either: • Gradual recovery with reduced leaf mass • Or stalled development if root damage was severe We do not expect explosive rebound. We expect stabilization first. ⸻ ❤️ Gratitude To: • The OGs who’ve been here since day one • The new followers discovering the journey • The skeptics who keep us sharp • The haters who fuel consistency • Sponsors supporting experimentation • GrowDiaries platform • Discord family • Instagram community This is not a solo grow. This is shared documentation. ⸻ 🌌 Final Thought Nothing in nature is perfect. And that’s exactly why this works. This week proves it. One queen thriving. One queen struggling. Both teaching. Cosmic Noodles — Week 8. Let’s recover one. Let’s push the other. Let’s document everything. For the Big Walla:📡 DELETED @ 1K Please stay tuned.we never quit https://www.youtube.com/@DOGDOGTHEDOCTOR NEW 🙏 Thank you for your patience and continued support. FOR DISCOUNT CODES AND MORE JUST FOLLOW THE LINK https://website.beacons.ai/dogdoctorofficial 📲 Don’t forget to Subscribe and follow me on Instagram and YouTube @DogDoctorOfficial for exclusive content, real-time updates, and behind-the-scenes magic. We’ve got so much more coming, including transplanting and all the amazing techniques that go along with it. You won’t want to miss it. 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Trust me, you won’t want to miss the next steps, let’s push the boundaries of indoor horticulture together! As always, this is shared for educational purposes, aiming to spread understanding and appreciation for this plant. Let’s celebrate it responsibly and continue to learn and grow together. With true love comes happiness. Always believe in yourself, and always do things expecting nothing and with an open heart. Be a giver, and the universe will give back in ways you could never imagine. 💚 Growers love to all 💚 📸 P.S. – The Eye Behind the Lens All photos in this diary (for now — except for the ones showing the camera, which I took with an iPhone) are taken with a Sony A6700 paired with a Sony full-frame macro lens and a few more. Photography is part of the story — it’s how we share the fine textures, the glow, and the quiet details that words can’t always capture. I’ve also started experimenting with photo stacking — a technique where multiple images, each taken at a slightly different focus point, are layered together to create one perfectly sharp image from front to back. It’s not digital enhancement or AI; it’s pure photography — a way to reveal the plant’s beauty in microscopic depth, from trichome to petal. You’ll even see a few shots of "ghost me" capturing the shots — camera, lens, setup — because every grow deserves not just to be cultivated, but documented like art. FOR DISCOUNT CODES AND MORE JUST FOLLOW THE LINK https://website.beacons.ai/dogdoctorofficial NEW DISCORD - Official Server Invite Link : https://discord.gg/ksjAkA5T74

Yo community! A friend of mine just started a Legal Grow in Germany with his roomate under my Supervision, as it is now Legal to grow in Germany. So I thought about documenting this grow. I've been growing for long time now, but my buddy Bili is a complete newbee at this stuff. I am positive that this "is gonna be huge". We plan on growing 6 plants. Bili is gonna be growing 3 and his roomate also 3 plants. Of course Bili will only care for his own 3 plants and his rommate for the other 3 as it is regulated like that by law. It is Germany where everything has to be like this apparently. lol. This grow will be 2-3 Weeks indoors 51w with low cost 3x17 Watts 4000 k LED Bulbs. (3€ each) Those produce 2500 lumens each, about 147 lm/W 1.45 l pots for the first few weeks indoors. The plants will then go into 5l pots on the window sill until harvest. faced to the south. So far the seeds have been placed into water over night. tomorrow we will put them into the soil. They are all Automatics. Day 2: seeds soaked over night. about 16 hours. The Gelato are already opening their shells.. The others are still closed. All sinked to the bottom over night. We are now planting them into the Soil.:) We soaked 9 seeds. 3x O.B. 4x Kryptonite and 2x Gelato. After cutting the dome off the lamps and counting the LED's (81) it looks like these are 0.21w SMD 31lm per LED (manufacturer says 147lm/w). for bulbs really good little LED's. looks like these are cree 2835 J series or similar types. there are cree 4000k J types that are exactly 31lm wich would be exactly what each LED should produce. (2500/81). Plant in Soil Date was 05 june. 14:00 Today, 2 Days and 10 hours, (58 hours) after planting in soil The 2 Gelatos came to life:) and one Kryptonite basically 3 full days including soaking time. 08.06 at 1:30 is the beginning of VEG Day one We will give them 24 hours light. day 5 after waterglass. Berries still no sign of life. lamp is at 30 cm distance. no signs of stretching. At Day 5 Veg we located the berry seeds and put them into paper towel, cracked them open and scraped the shell. we have enough plants now but nothing to choose from in case a plant has weak genes. So we hope a few berries will make it. probably old Seeds.