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Flowers are developing nicely. These stretches more that I thought they would burn I’m happy because I’m not a fan of short bushy plants. Everything is healthy
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Two Phenos completely different. In The back like sativa structure In The front more like indica structure
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Week 12 Flower 8 Pink Rozay This week was all about checking trichomes. Pink Rozay trichomes show mostly milk and amber. There are a few heads that are dark brown that indicate too late to harvest. The older pistils are turning orange brown and water consumption is slowing down. These and the trichome indicators indicate readiness. Based on this, I put Pink Rozay in the cool garage with low light and ice on top of the pot at night this week. Pink Rozay feeding and pics on March 23,& 26 Bloom Juice 120 ml Royal Rush 0 ml Power bud 15 ml Green sensation 15ml Cal Mag 20ml Recharge 5ml Ppm ranged from 676-777 Ph 6.5 Temp 68 Your likes and comments are appreciated. Thanks for stopping by. Growers love 💚🌿 💫Natrona💫
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The tale of the Goddesses is ending. Through this grow, I have given tribute to matriarchs-my grandmother and my mother who have influenced who I am in this world. I’ve showcased their art, photographs, and their lifetimes. I shared our family history through old photos while also showcasing the art of Alphonse Mucha in the Art Neuveux style he created in the early 1900's. The femininity reflected in his art elevates women to Goddesses with their flowing hair and floral backgrounds. In the diary I indicated I wanted to be a healer in my younger years. I wasn't a medical professional by career choice, but I provide natural nontoxic solutions for cleaning and beauty products and have for my family and friends for over 25 years. Not only are the items healthy and clean, but they are also effective and save you money. And who doesn't want that? I added the song Woman by Iris Gold. Have a listen in you tube or amazon music. Shoot for the stars and may all your dreams come true. My cover for Harvest and Smoke report is Alphonse Mucha’s poster for Job cigarette papers. This is one of the most famous works in design history. Taking its cue from a new kind of female beauty, its modern girl has hair with a life of its own. The tendrils look more like the floating tentacles of a jellyfish. This is in vast contrast to the style of the times when women wore their hair tightly pulled up on their heads. For most people, though, the Job poster is less likely to be associated with belle époque Paris of early 1900’s, than the swinging 1960s. Its blissed-out smoker and trippy swirls made it an obvious choice for the bedroom walls of a later generation of freedom-seekers. In posters for perfume, beer, biscuits, bicycles, and Job Cigarettes (1896) he blurred the barrier between fine art and commercial art, between commerce and philosophy. The weekly diary covers I presented show Mucha’s style - organic and ornate, graceful and dynamic, with curving, swooping lines and Byzantine borders, lettering, and frames. The iconic 'Mucha woman' had curves, flowing hair, pastel robes, and often a halo of light or flowers. His women burst with life. I have mixed emotions about my grow and harvest. My results indicate I have a lot to learn. This was my 3rd grow and I still have problems with over feeding my auto girls. wh For all future grows I will reduce any synthetic fertilizer to 1/4 to 1/2 the recommended dosage. Overfeeding caused clawing and canoeing followed by nutrient lockout. While I was trying to correct this problem, flushing for 3 weeks to get out the excess fertilizers and salts, the girls were already overmature and past harvest. Checking trichomes at 10 weeks, there were few trichomes and didn't see much more until week 12. I checked with my phone camera at 10x magnification every other day. I saw lots of clear, then clear and milky, then all milky but never did I see any amber trichomes. The plants began to reveg based on the King Crown buds developing (see pics in week 15). The CBG may have degraded to CBN since I was 3-4 weeks late in harvest. If that is true, I don't mind since I need sleep medicine too. I lost Circe at the end due to aphid infestation. Ater several power washing with the hose on jet, we could not get the bugs off. So, I chopped her and into the trash she went. I did only minor defoliation near the end of the grow but neither plant was very leafy. For future grows, I will defoliate on a schedule, do some stress training maybe fimming, lollypopping, and defoiliating. Note to self: when buying seeds, look for more growing information on the strain such as when trichomes are expected and days to harvest. Knowledge is power. On the flip side, my happiness comes from the completion of a grow the harvest was 57 grams of smoke and 26 grams trim was not the highest yield but workable for what I need. As I indicated in the beginning, my plan, in addition to enjoying the smoke, is to put CBG in my health & beauty products. So, you don't have to wait for me to make mine, I've loaded a pain salve recipe above from Emily Kyle for a CBD or THC. The recipe shown makes 3/4 cup but can be doubled or halved. I'm, so excited I have decarbed my CBG trim and will use to make this formula while the buds are curing. I will also include some Lemon auto which is 17:17 CBD:THC to give it some other cannabinoids. I'll also put the recipe in the recipe diary. CBG will go in the coconut oil I use in my toothpaste ( recipe loaded in recipe file) If you follow me, check my recipe diary periodically as I will add new food and beauty recipes in future grows. For my readers and followers, I express my sincere gratitude for all the comments, likes and views and thank you for responding to my questions. I always hate having to pick one answer because they are all good. Just know that I learn from every one's answers. In closing, this Grow Diaries community is the best. With all the love and positive vibes I received, I got overwhelmed at times. As this was my medical grow, many of you sent me good vibes and prayers for continued healing. I feel your energy and it keeps my frequency up. I have enjoyed meeting and chatting with all of you. I'll be starting my next grow soon so follow along with that one too. Sending you love and good vibes 💚💫💫💚. Enjoy your smoke💨💨 Happy growing 🌱and have fun🎉
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Her buds are starting to get bigger. She’s shaping up nicely.
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7/13 It's maine-ing out. Overcast and misting. I guess it rained last night but not much. Today is my watering day although I think they could've made it until tomorrow. These drastic temp changes makes it hard to get a STEADY routine in place. I watered everything in the 20's a gallon the 10's 1/2 gallon. The 10th planet in the front was still heavy so I didn't water it. I'll keep an eye on it. Temps are much milder. I noticed a few more septoria leaves on the 10th planet which I promptly defoliated. This pheno is flowering. I could've put this week as flowering as several plants have started. I also saw ONE leaf on my chem dog that had septoria on it. ONE f-ing leaf! I was planning on treating this early anyway so I mixed one gallon of plant doctor 3 tsp gallon/gallon which was the recommendation. I'll monitor this plant and continue treating it the next two weeks. I may do foliar too but the mixture is different. It's a systemic so I don't think that matters as much. Considering getting mulch to protect from spores on the soil. My plants look GORGEOUS. I Hate to use such a nice plant as a guennie pig but I'm not going to sit here and watch it progress. I'm lucky it's really not that bad and that it's on a reveg. There's so many leaves that I would be forced to prune anyway. I'm seeing two MAYBE three leaves a morning but I want to get this under control. Last year u let a plant with septoria go and it finished but went to extracts. I've got a pretty good feeling about this plant doctor. I've used it before with good results. Only time will tell though.🤞 EDIT: WENT OVER AT ABOUT 1PM. ITS 2 NOW AND BLUE SKIES AND SUNNY. IM SUPER GLAD I WATERED AND EVEN MORE SO THAT I APPLIED THE PLANT DOCTOR HOW I DID. THE GIRLS ALL LOOKED AMAZING. THE TENTH PLANET I TREATED WITH PLANT DOCTOR LOOKS THE BEST IVE EVER SEEN IT. I FOUND ON LEAVE DEEP ON THE INTERIOR WITJ A SMALL SPOT BUT ITS SOMETHING IM SURE I MISSED THIS MORNING. IF THIS WORKS THIS GOOD ILL BE APPLYING IT TO EVERYTHING EVEN IF ITS JUST PREVENTATIVE. 7/14 Rained last night andcwas still sprinkling when I went over. Amazingly the 10th planet that I treated with the plant doctorcmix had ZERO visible signs of septoria. I did find one leaf on Mt chem dog and two on my mk ultra with the big leaves. It could've been calcium deficiency but I really doubt it because I think I saw THAT as well. I'm going to wait a day or two and if there are still no negative results and the plant is still looking good I'm going to treat AT LEAST the two others that MAY be infected. It's a systemic and can be used proactively and supposably breaks down into p and k after stimulating immune response. I'll monitor a little longer but as it stands I think I'm going to treat the other two just in case. I also need to start feeding. I've watered a lot more than I normally do so obviously the soil won't last as long. This has been some tricky weather but I'm happy with how things are progressing. I probably should've changed this to the first week of flower as several plants are popping pistols everywhere. EDIT: WENT OVER AROUND NOON AND MIXED UP TEO GALLONS OF PLANT DOCTOR PLANNING TO TREAT THE TWO PLANTS BESIDE THE 10TH PLANET. EVERYTHING LOOKED SO PERFECT AND TOMORROW IS MY WATER DAY SO I DECIDED TO HOLD OFF AND APPLY IT WHEN IT NEEDS WATER ANYWAY. I DID NOTICE THAT PLANTS SEEM TO BE FLOWERING MORE AGGREWWIVELY THAN BEFORE. THINGS ARE GETTING INTERESTING. 7/15 It was water day. The girls looked great this morning. I watered everything at least a gallon and 1.5 for the thirstier plants. I treated my big fan leaf mk ultra and my chem dog #4 with the same Plant Doctor mix as i did tge 10th planet beside it. I havent seen ANY septoria on that plant since application and it looks better than ever. I watered them with a half gallon of phed water before doing a soul drench with the gallon of Plant Doctor @ 3tsp/gal. I'm not seeing much septoria but plants are starting flower and I want to nip it in the bud. This product can be used preventatively and I went by the guidelines for medical marijuana. It was 70 earlier this morning. I'll update as I go forward. EDIT: WENT BACK OVER AT 3 AS THE TENPS WERE PIST 90 AND HAD BEEN ALL DAY. I POSTED A SHORT VIDEO BUT EVERYTHING IS LOOKING GREAT. THE PLANT DOCTOR SEEMS TO HAVE HELPED SUBSTANTIALLY. DIDNT FIND ONE SEPTORIA LEAF. STILL IT WILL TAKE A WHILE TO WORK FULLY BUT IM GLAD I DIDNT CHICKEN OUT AND I APPLIED THE RIGHT AMOUNT. IM GOING TO KEEP AN EYE ON THINGS BUT I MIGHT JUST TREAT EVERYTHING PREVENTATIVELY WHICH IS JUST HALF A TSP A GALLON I THINK. IT DEF TRIGGERS A RESPONSE IN THE PLANT. I LOVE IT WHEN SHIT JUST WORKS OYT AND YOU END UP PLEASANTLY SURPRISED. NEXT WATERING ILL PROBABLY DO NUTES. IM DEBATING WHETBER TO TRELLUS OR JUST USE STAKES AND STRINGS ACROSS THE CAGE AS NEEDED. OH WELL. OVER 90 IS TO MUCH FOR ME TO BE OUTSIDE FOR TOO LONG. 7/16 Plant Doctor is doimg its job. I saw a couple septoria leaves on chem dog but it was interior amd I could've missed it. It takes a little bit to get going. I think I'm going to treat the rest of the garden with at least the preventative dose of 1tsp per gallon. I'll wait and see if this keeps it from popping back up. It almost got to 100 yesterday. It was 80 early this morning. I mixed up two gallons of water and gave the thistiest/lightest a half gallon. I'm hoping that will hold everything over until tomorrow which is water day. I'll have to check but I think it might be time to feed too. I def should make sure to treat tjis septoria before focusing on nutes. It says you can mix it with nutes but I'm leary of doing so. I'd rather apply them at seperate times. I'll watch the garden and of I NEED to water I will. I'm hoping what I did will be enough. EDIT: WENT OVER AROUND ONE. IT WAS 93° WITH SUPER HIGH HUMIDITY. IM GLAD I SPLIT THAT TWO GALLONS WITH THOSE FOUR PLANTS THATS FOR SURE! THEY'D PROBABLY BE DROOPED IF I DIDNT. EVERYTHING WAD PRAYING TO THE SUN GODS. WELL, EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE MK ULTRA IN THE 30 AND THE 10TH PLANET. THEY ARENT DROOPING THEY JUST LOOK NORMAL. THEY ARENT "PRAYING" LIKE THE OTHERS. THEY ARE DEFINATELY A LITTLE LIGHT AND ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THEIR WATERING. AND THEIR FEEDING. THATS FOR SURE. I WAS SUPER HAPPY WITH WHAT I SAW GOING OVER AND THE GIRLS WILL BE ABLE TO HOLD OUT UNTIL THE MORNING. ONE IN SPECIAL KUSH (WHICH GROW AMAZING AND LARGE HERE) IS IN A 10 AND I EVEN GAVE IT A LITTLE WATER THIS MORNING BUT ITS DROOPY. I COULD STILL FEEL A LITTLE BIT OF MOUSTURE EVEN THOUGH IT WAS LIGHT. IT CAN WAIT UNTIL THE MORNING WITH THE REST. IF IT WAS DROOPING BAD I WOULDA WATERED IT. I DONT GET WHY IM HAVING PROBLEMS FINISHING PLANTS IN 10GAL SMART POTS. YEARS AGO I COULD FINISH SOMETHING IN A 5GAL BUCKET! BUT NOW ITS LIKE THE PLANTS I GROW GET FAR TO BIG TO FINISH FLOWERING ON THESE TINY BAGS. ILL MONITER. HOPFULLY IT WILL BE FINE. IF I HAVE TO I SUPPOSE I COULD CUT THE BOTTOM OFF AND PUT THEM IN THE GROUND OR MORE SUBSTRATE BUT THATS NOT SOMETHING I REALLY WANT TO DO. I CANT WAIT TO SEE YOU THESE GIRLS TURN OUT. 7/17 I'm glad I gave those few plants that extra water. It hit 100 yesterday. Plants made it through it OK. It's 80 at 9am. I watered the garden even though it's supposed to rain with a chance of thunderstorms. Everything got at least a gallon. The mk ultra reveg in the 30 got 2gals as did the thirsty special kush on the end. I've figured out which plants use more water and I try to give them a little more. I also fed today. I was hesitant to feed the plants I treated with plant doctor, but I did anyway. 1tsp grow big 2tsp big bloom .5 tsp calmag. I've noticed pistles coming together on a few plants and forming buds. Next week will definitely be labeled flower. The plants treated with plant doctor LOOK great! I've found a few septoria leaves on a couple other plants. No big deal. I was going to treat the rest of the garden preventatively but if a couple more are infected I'll just add them to the rotation. I just need to make sure I follow-up with the next few treatments. Can't say enough good about this plant doctor. 7/18 Well this fucking sucks. It's 35mph wind gusts and windy as hell. It might've rained last night but if it didn't rain much. I spent the morning "trying" to put up little strong or rope supports to help the girls. I ran a rope across the front of the three on tje back to suppirt them. That one works good. I have one going the other way the entire length which helps support some. Then I took string and ran it around each side of a row for supports. So far no observable damage abd the plants all looked awesome. They've been through a lot and are big tough hardy plants. They'll make it through tjis no problem. I'd be more worried if they had big wet flowers on them but by then I'll have the proper supports and maybe a trellis up. I feel for them this morning and I hope that wind doesn't dry out my bags! EDIT: SPIDY SENSE STARTED TINGLING AROUND ONE SO I WENT AND CHECKED. I GUESS WILL POWER ALONE WONT MAKE IT SO THE PLANTS MAKE IT TO WATERING DAY. WIND GUSTS HAVE BEEN HIGHER THAN 35MPH AND IVE SEEN REPORTS OF 25MPH SUSTAINED WIND. I DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS HERE BUT IT DRIED OUT SOME BAGS AND WAS TURNINGVPLANTS SIDEWAYS. BOTH 10TH PLANETS (THEY DRINK ALOT OF WATER) AND THE MK ULTRA REVEG WERE BADLY DROOPING. THE REST "MIGHT" HAVE MADE IT UNTIL MORNING BUT WHATS THE POINT? I ALSO HAVE TO LEAVE EARLY TOMORROW TO TAKE THE WIFE TO THE DOCTORS. WHAT I DECIDED ON WAS TO WATER THE PLANTS THAT DRINK THE MOST 2 GALS AND GIVE THE OTHERS TGATXWERENT DROOPING AND LIGHT 1.5. I GAVE THE TWO IN THE TENS A HALF GALLON EACH. THERE ATE TWO PLANTS AT THE BACK (SPECIAL KUSH AND PINK KUSH) THAT I DECIDED TO HOLD OFF AND WATER TOMORROW. I NOTICED SOME LEAVES WITH THE COMMON "IF THE BROWN SURROUNDS YOUR PLANT IS DROWNED" SO IF THE PLANTS HAVE A LITTLE WEIGHT, LOOK GOOD AND HAVE PRAYING LEAVES THEN I SHOULD PROBABLY WAIT TO WATER. THEY ARE ALL GETTING BEATEN TO SHIT BY THIS WIND STORM. IM SURPRISED THERE IS NO DAMAGE. THESE PLANTS ARE VERY STRONG. RESILIENT. I DIDNT WATER THE 50 EITHER AND IM UP IN THE AIR ABOUT WATERING IT TOMORROW. Edit 2 I went over around six once the wind died down a little. All the plants I didn't water look great. It's jist the reveges that took it the worst and has some fading leaves. I fixed it with nutes but it doesn't fix the leaves already pale. The reverse mostly are the ones seeing any stress from this storm. The large special kush in the front has buds like an inch long now. Soon it will be time to treat with plant doctor again.
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we pass 6 weeks of flowers. buds are getting fulled and the smell is so so beautiful. Here on pics is day 36 of flowering. Breeder says. flowering time is 6-7 weeks, let see in 2 weeks On feeding menu is again Iguana Juice Bloom, I spend all Mother earth. it is awesome nutrients. will buy it again.
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Jour 84 , ça pousse à merveille, les plantes réagissent bien au thé Les têtes commencent tous doucement à se former Je les palisse petit à petit quand je vois que ça se rapproche trop de la lampe, j’ai du déjà en palisser 5/6
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A couple days before chopping. Spotted budrot at 2 spots in the New 2. So almost time to cut before it get worse. The rest is doing fine, New 1 and Strawberry are gonna be the first ones to get chopped together,branches are under load and some are bending down
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Great grow. I experimented with topping and topped to earley which hurt my overall yield but after all was said and done I ended up with just over an ounce of really good top shelf pot!!!
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Feb 22 This guy really is FAST. I guess FastBuds was right. I'll need to attach a timelapse to show just how fast it's taken off.
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Had a small issue this week where temp dropped a bit, I was on vacation for a few days and a window got left open to the room the tent is in. The room got down to 62f with the lights on. lights off temp wasn't much cooler. I noticed some canoeing on leaves near the center of the room, I am hoping this was just caused by the temperature stress that happened by the sudden drop. I fixed the temp and issue and it should be back to normal. Trichome's look great under microscope. Getting tightly packed and very cloudy, very little amber color at this point. Cheese #1 Has swelled up quite a bit over the last 5 days, The buds on it are noticeably larger than the ones on Cheese #2 I have moved the led light to cast more on cheese #2 in hopes to get the buds on it to catch up to #1 Still dealing with small calcium deficiencies, I will do a light flush this week of 1/2 strength nutrients and Cal at 6.5 Mid Weekupdate: Flushed plants with 1/3rd nutrient dose and full strength cal mag. Adjusted ph. to 6.5 to allow for better uptake of calcium. The calcium issue isnt bad just some small spotting but I am trying to get ahead of it as there is supposed to be 4 weeks left on the strain. The buds have started to tighten and get more dense. Hairs are about 40% red, some are receding into the bud. Smells like citrus.
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All good! My DWC experiment worked out better than expected! My soil grows are great!!!
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On Day 97, day 52 since the switch to 12-12, she is doing fine and continues to fattening up and put on weight. Not much to do but wait at this point. I'll start looking at trichomes soon.
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~ FASTBUDS TESTER #2205 ~ Well friends, here we go on another 'canna-venture' together! The grow room has had a complete remodel and some upgrades done to it including brand spanking new 4x8 and 4x4 tents and a Trolmaster Hydro X controller along with a new Control Panel. This tester strain is one of six tester strains that FastBuds has graciously provided me with and I'm looking forward to seeing what this girl has to offer when she's grown to her full potential! One drawback of 'testers' is I have little to no information on it other than its number and that it's an autoflower... 🤪 But, it's ALWAYS a blast growing them for me because not knowing a lot allows me to just concentrate on the essentials: Light, Environment, Water, Nutrients and possibly a bit of LST... not complicated, just basics like keeping a constant temperature and RH in the tent at a level that gives a good VPD, watering when almost dry and maintaining proper light levels according to their stage of growth. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ~THE SETUP~ ~Initially seeds were lightly scuffed, then soaked for 3 hours in 78℉ distilled water after which they were transferred to moist paper towels laid out in a Jiffy Pellet plastic starter tray with lid. Underneath the tray was placed a Mars Hydro Heat Mat with Controller that was set to 78℉ where they stayed until their tap roots emerged. ~Planted into Jiffy Peat Pellets that were hydrated with distilled water warmed to 78℉ with a 7.0 ph. ~Once roots emerge from the Jiffy Pellet they're transferred to their fabric pots. ~Grown 100% organic in a 4g Gronest fabric pot and a 3g fabric pot by Wraxly filled with Mother Earth 70/30 Coco/Perlite medium and initially amended with Dr. Earth 4-4-4 / Earthworm Castings / Dr. Earth Flower Girl 3-9-4 and Coast of Maine Stonington Blend Organic Plant Food 5-2-4. ~19/5 light cycle for the entire run with supplemental UVA added during flower. Lights are controlled by a Trolmaster Hydro X controller set for a 15min Sunrise/Sunset simulation. ~Top dressing every 3-4 weeks with slow release dry amendments and Earthworm castings. ~Straight water ph'd @ 6.2-6.8 when needed and bi-weekly Compost Tea's. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Weekly Updates: 12/29- Here we go into Week One of Flower! It's been a month since these pretty ladies popped out of the ground and they're both looking perfect and have pistils popping out everywhere! Their fabric pots were still heavy when lifted, and they looked happy, so I skipped watering today and will check them tomorrow morning after the lights come on. Since being topped roughly a week ago, they have two new shoots that are emerging and looking extremely healthy with excellent vigor and have a beautiful healthy green color! The #1 is now at 7" tall and the #2 a bit taller at 9". 12/31- Today was a 'dry day and all I did was refill the humidifier and some canopy maintenance, tucking shade leaves and gently bending branches. It's been a little over four weeks since they were planted in their amended medium and it's time to give their microbes a good feed so they can continue to provide them with all the macro and micro nutrients they need so, yesterday they got a good watering with 0.5g of de-chlorinated water with GreenGro's Veg, Flower, Green Aminos, Natures Brix and Granular Myco added to it @ 1.5 tsp/g and then ph'd to 6.4 @ 73℉. 01/02- Today I watered them from the bottom with 0.5g of de-chlorinated water to which I added 3ml/g of Earth Juice OilyCann cal-mag to prevent any Cal-Mag issues they may encounter before they arrive. I also have the HLG 650R set 36" above canopy and it's set at 60% power which is being controlled by a Trolmaster HydroX controller. The tent environment is on point with temp's running 70 when the light's off and 74℉ with the light on. I'm keeping the RH at 55-60% right now but will drop it as flowering progresses. Finally, I've been keeping the VPD in the tent running 0.85 - 1.05 which I'm happy with! 01/04- They have both been doing really well getting watered every other day and yesterday they received 0.5g each of de-chlorinated water with 3ml/g of Fish Head Farms Fish Sh!t Soil Conditioner which was then ph'd to 6.3 @ 72℉. They're both doing fantastic but were really beginning to get choked up with growth so I went in and selectively removed a few shade leaves from both to get some light penetration down into their canopies to give that lower growth some much needed light. While I was doing that I also did a little more LST on both to also increase light penetration. Well, there goes another week in our journey and I'm looking forward to the coming weeks as flowering gets cranked up! 😍👍 😎💚 Thank you for checking out my passion in life! Please visit as often as you wish and I hope you enjoy this journey as much as I know I will! Grow Strong! 💪😎🤙
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38 dias de vida y el olor de las plantas es brutal , se han estirado bastante hasta pasar los 60 cm se puede notar el Bionabis y Deltanabis de Terranabis, estan creciendo espectacular una pasada, vamos a ver a donde llegamos con tan poco tiempo y en cuanto a las variedades estoy muy impaciente para ver como se desarrollan ya que no sabemos mucho sobre su genetica , mas que lo comentado en el anterior semana.
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Week 4 (9.11.25-9.18.25) Took photos on 9.14.25 and 9.17.25