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D71/FD43 - Sooo...its all gone a bit to dick this week! So, as noted before, Oscillating RAM fans keep blowing on me. Just stop dead and haven't got a chance to get down the 90miles to get them replaced again. Well, noticed a few leaves that looked like they may be a bit light coloured...only 1 or 2, at the top buds which is strange and not really an N deficiency...so I looked more closely....4 buds with the dreaded fur on them!!! Fucking Bud Rot!!! Ones closest to the door that would get the biggest temp differential (So the weirdest humidity) and no air really getting round them!!! Talk about a SICKNER! This grow just seems to be blighted (literally) with something new every 3 weeks!!! So, had to chop a few tops and now going to be on the defensive for the next few weeks. We're not yet ripe and *hoping* as these had the least air movement round them, the spores didn't get about the place!!! Worst as well is the height of all the plants...cant get the UVB bulb in there for fear of burning them but that would potentially sterilise the fungus (I'd usually be using a 10K finisher this week but with the change to LED...) so now to work out what to do. Also didn't help that I didn't put the lid on my tank right last night doing a check and think i pumped about 10L of water about the place!!! Yip, today was a disaster!!! So, apart from that, I've dropped the Silicon and changed to TNC bactorr for my root inoculant (Out of great white). Apart from that, happy growing all!!! 💪
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Plant suffered of poor quality water, problems of transpiration and nutrients absorption due to pH unbalanced values, low humidity level, both light and ventilation intensity excess. Humidity is under control: stabilised between 45% and 50% continuously. pH has been fixed to 6.0 in all H2O solutions. Exhaust fan has been equipped of a rotative knob control in order to settle power: once desired humidity level is overpassed ventilation can be returned to max speed in order to maintain 24,5 Celsius degrees. LED light cycle 24/0 TOTAL AGRO at maximum intensity has been abandoned for energy and its cost savings purpose in relation with the final scope and entropy reduction effectiveness : Main+ 100 Blue+ 100 Red+ 100 LED Light Spectrum has been settled in order to give a natural Sun Dawn/Sunset effect maintaining the 24/0 cycle: 09:00 Main+ 50 Blue+ 85 Red+ 50 10:00 Main+ 50 Blue+ 90 Red+ 50 11:00 Main+ 50 Blue+ 95 Red+ 50 12:00 Main+ 50 Blue+ 100 Red+ 50 13:00 Main+ 50 Blue+ 100 Red+ 50 14:00 Main+ 50 Blue+ 100 Red+ 50 15:00 Main+ 50 Blue+ 100 Red+ 50 16:00 Main+ 50 Blue+ 100 Red+ 50 17:00 Main+ 50 Blue+ 100 Red+ 50 18:00 Main+ 50 Blue+ 100 Red+ 50 19:00 Main+ 45 Blue+ 95 Red+ 45 20:00 Main+ 40 Blue+ 90 Red+ 40 21:00 Main+ 35 Blue+ 85 Red+ 35 22:00 Main+ 30 Blue+ 80 Red+ 30 23:00 Main+ 25 Blue+ 75 Red+ 25 00:00 Main+ 40 Blue+ 70 Red+ 40 01:00 Main+ 35 Blue+ 65 Red+ 35 02:00 Main+ 30 Blue+ 60 Red+ 30 03:00 Main+ 25 Blue+ 55 Red+ 25 04:00 Main+ 30 Blue+ 60 Red+ 30 05:00 Main+ 35 Blue+ 65 Red+ 35 06:00 Main+ 40 Blue+ 70 Red+ 40 07:00 Main+ 45 Blue+ 75 Red+ 45 08:00 Main+ 50 Blue+ 80 Red+ 50 Note: ORTOLED SERIE K is intrinsically provided of Sunrise/Sunset function which enables a smooth, uniform and gradual variation of light intensity during time without generating any kind of shock from sudden switching on or off, or changes in power and spectrum value. Blue light parameter overwhelms in this stage in order to encourage vegetative growth, compactness, and bushiness and photomorphogenesis, its development, including leaf expansion, stem elongation, and overall plant architecture. Decreased light intensity during night cycle should help regulate phototropism and reduce light stress. The plant well reacted to the care it received and the measures put in place, which given the visible critical health condition, were drastic and extreme. Possible combination of over feeding, overwatering and excess of light, responding to stress to be identified, on the basis of following visible symptoms : - leaves have turned thick, fat, dark deep green; - leaves start curling; - leaves hint a deep yellow hue; - new leaves are born with light green and yellow tips; - leaves report burnings such as fresh black spots which turn into dry brown spots; - 1 leaf at the third node is born with 4 tips, the second one is a 5 tips leaf correctly. Additional considerations to be uploaded asap regarding : - Biochar pH 8,5; - Biochar nutrients absorption and retention capacity in relation with organic growing; - Biochar and Coco Coir micro and macro nutrients binding capacity; - moon effect during plant life cycle; - huge vitality has been noticed during crescent moon appearance; - plant is asking for more and more feeding; - growing will be abandoned for no more than 96 hours therefore a self irrigating cotton rope wick system has been implemented. Added nutrients : Biobizz_ Alg-A-Mic - FishMix Bionova_ Ph+/Ph-
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Blütewoche 4 – Volle Expansion unter Druck In der vierten Blütewoche gehen die Pflanzen endgültig in den vollen Ausbau. Die Struktur verdichtet sich sichtbar, neue Kelche schieben konstant nach und die Harzproduktion nimmt deutlich Fahrt auf. Die Luftfeuchtigkeit wird konsequent bei 60 % gehalten, damit die Raubmilben optimale Bedingungen haben und ihren Job effektiv erledigen können. Das IPM-Management läuft stabil und präventiv. Trotz kontrollierter Parameter schießt die Pflanze weiter in die Höhe. Die zwei obersten Hauptstränge befinden sich inzwischen nur noch knapp 14 cm unter der Lampe, was bei genau diesen beiden Tops zu leicht aufgehellten, fast albinoartigen Spitzen führt. Interessanterweise zeigen die Buds etwa 20 cm darunter keinerlei Stress und vertragen die maximale PPFD problemlos. Das Lichtmanagement funktioniert also grundsätzlich – nur die absoluten Tops bekommen aktuell die volle Intensität ab. Die Pflanzen befinden sich klar im „Stacking Mode“. Die Budsites verdichten sich, die Zuckerblätter überziehen sich zunehmend mit Trichomen und die Struktur wird kompakter. Aromatisch beginnt sich bereits jetzt ein sehr klares Profil zu zeigen – ähnlich wie beim vorherigen Clone: 🌲 Waldig 🍏 Apfel 🌰 mit einer warmen Zimtnote Die Terpene breiten sich früh und intensiv aus. Ein sehr gutes Zeichen für die kommenden Wochen. Die Richtung stimmt – jetzt heißt es Stabilität halten und den Fokus auf sauberen Blütenaufbau legen. EN: Flower Week 4 – Full Expansion Under Pressure In week four of flowering the plants have fully entered their expansion phase. The structure is visibly tightening, new calyxes are stacking consistently, and resin production is clearly accelerating. Humidity is kept consistently at 60% to provide optimal conditions for the predatory mites so they can effectively do their job. The IPM strategy remains stable and preventive. Despite controlled environmental parameters, the plant continues stretching aggressively. The two upper main tops are now only about 14 cm below the lamp, which has resulted in slightly bleached, almost albino-looking tips — but only on those two highest buds. Interestingly, the buds located roughly 20 cm lower show zero signs of stress and handle maximum PPFD without any issues. Light management is fundamentally on point — only the very top colas are currently receiving the most intense exposure. The plants are clearly in full stacking mode. Bud sites are tightening up, sugar leaves are increasingly covered in trichomes, and overall structure is becoming denser. Aroma development is already pronounced and very expressive — similar to the previous clone: 🌲 Forest-like 🍏 Apple 🌰 with a warm cinnamon undertone Terpenes are spreading early and intensely, which is a very promising sign for the upcoming weeks. The direction is right — now it's about maintaining stability and channeling energy into clean bud development.
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MONDAY: Taking all those cuttings last week seems to have really triggered her auxins, all branches are stretching, even the ones I cut from, but her main is reeeaaalllly stretching.. I think I'm gonna have to either top her or supercrop her. I've got to keep her height down so she isn't too much of a pain to deal with in a tent full of her little clones. this fall. Or maybe I'll just stick her in a closet somewhere and keep about 15 watts on her all winter long, then take some more cuttings to put outdoors? I wish I know for sure how well she smelled/tasted/intoxicated. I'd hate to learn she's a super-plant and not be able to grow her again... WEDNESDAY: I gave her a drink of water with bud candy and calimagic and started foliar feeding with Flower's Kiss. THURSDAY: I checked her clones today...4 have rooted very well and going into 3 gal pots tomorrow. Foliar fed her and told her how beautiful she looks. FRIDAY: I gave her a gallon of grow nutes including Microbe Brew and also started her on Terpinator. I planted 7 of her clones in 3 gallon (white) fabric pots today. They are sharing the 4 x 4 tent with the 6 x White Widow + 1 x Candy Cane seedlings for now. SATURDAY: I planted 7 of her clones today in 3 gallon (white) fabric pots. I added two new blue/cold white LED panels to the 4 x 4 tent. They are kickass. Very low heat and excellent coverage. The 2 lights is overkill for this space, but I like it....a lot. So much so, that I will order 4 of them in 660nm deep red for flowering..two for the 4 x 4 and two for the 5 x 4. I also bought and installed a 16' string of 300 Cold White (7000k)/Warm White (2800k) strip lights(150 each). It has a remote control which lets me change over to warm white for flowering...or have steady cold white and pulse warm white..or whatever. I think that they will serve as excellent low-heat side/corner lighting. Kinda pricey because in addition to the lights, you have to buy a controller and power supply, but they seem very effective. I plan to order another set for the 4 x 4 tent. But, it's a double-row set (600 leds) ..one row of lights is warm white, and the other is RGB adjustable, so I can run 440nm blues for veg and 660nm reds for flower. I plan to keep them just below the canopy so as to illuminate the secondary and tertiary buds as much as possible. Once this concept is proven (and once I save the money), I'll do the same thing in the 4 x 5 tent. Update: Ok, so I've decided I'm only kinda happy with the strip lights.. I've decided to try velcroing 4 of those 4' integrated led tube lights in cold white for veg and warm white for flower to my horizontal poles. The cold white(6500k) are 2-rows of lights that pull 36w and put out 3000 lumens each and the warm white(2700) are single row pulling 24w at 2200 lumens each.
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September 10th, Like I mentioned in my last post. She started flowering. But i was truly amazed The flowering of rhis girl from the week is nothing like what i have witnesssed so far in my grows outdoor. Usually outdoors, plants preflower and stack up for ages.(4weeks or so) This Killer kush seems to skip time and pop out nugs all at once. Tiny balls all over this plant now. Buds ..inside, outside and.in between Cant wait so wait to see how this one progresses during weeks to come ! Weather was stormy for a few days. Fortunatly more sunshine is on it's way...according to weather model.
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D38. Growth is good. They was starting to be a bit more yellow than I like when the lights come on I added a bit more food. Jumped the ppm to 600 counting the. 140 from the tap water. I could. Probably. Feed more but. No need. They happy. The one girl is staying. To small I'm worried it's not gonna be able to reach the screen. So stripped it staked it. And gonna try. To branch it out more. To make up for it and will raise if needed. I've been. Really twisting these girls. Everyday. It has slowed growth down but the smell let's me know it's worth it. Very very sticky already like velcro. First thing I've noticed. For me is. That comparison wise my girls are very easy to make. Sticky& Stinky I've never had this much. Smell or. Taste or stickiness this soon outside they starting to get used to it. So now I'm able to really. Hurt the plant. And make it fight. Fir me the way I do it I get more sticky more stinky the smell is bad actually but I'm not sure if this is normal for inside. Already? I wish you guys could smell this already. It's got that classic skunky smell for sure but there's a Sprite smell mixed with a sweet. Taste already the leaf is very sweet and has a nearly pear taste already. At this rate. Probably gonna be vegging 80+ days. I'm gonna scrog um so really just gotta fill the canopy in but I'm not sure how much these hps can penetrate so I'm not sure how thick to make it. I got 7.5 feet. To work with and I can get the hoods. Real close to the top so I'm thinking. Minuse 1 foot for container 1 foot for the hood. And then the light distance. they brand new so 18+ or it does burn um I can get. 18 for sure so I figure once they hit the wall I'll switch the lights. First time. Here. So I'm sure I'll mess this up. But hey that's the fun part right I'm getting leafs with 9+ leaflets forgot to take a picture of the 13 one. Next one I will for sure. Got the 9 for ya happy growing. Everyone. And does anyone else. Add a month of grow time. To really damage the stems in a good way and keep stripping leaves. just curious ? I'm still giving them 5 gallons of water a day probably 50% run off maybe. More. I keep adding tell the run off is perfect. Ph for me that's 5.8 everyday when I check it. It's around 6.1 and the tds will be around 800 the madness behind this is all bro science but seems to me I only get so many. Water cycles 8b the flower stage. So this way I'll be able to really pump in the. Nutes and for me I like this style of growing. Let's me correct yellowing over hours and I'm thinking. Around. Bud time I should be able to hit these a lot more. And keep the numbers. Higher longer and keep the ph more stable. But like I said some bro science so we will see but my coco is a 50 50 mix so it drains. So fast I can really unlock the hydro part of this medium it does eat up some food and water and I'm sure this will double in flower probably 2 gals a lady everyday my thing is I want the girls to have fresh new. Always. So it's always got everything. It needs but still has the synthetic nutes style were you can still burn them with to much like I said just a thought on some bro science hope everyone has a good week.
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March 1, 2024 Day 15 A new week and a lot of changes. We are talking watering, nutrients, lighting and RH. First, let's discuss the look of these girls. They have extremely broad leaves and the yellowing was definitely a nutrient deficiency. The tops started turning a very light yellow. A sure sign of a deficiency. I'm not sure what it is though. Nitrogen or Cal/Mag? On of those. I think. They are both 3" tall now and are starting to really stretch. This leads me into the next topic. Nutrient regimen. Today started the Advanced Nutrients 3 part base at 2 ml/gal each and Advanced Nutrients Sensi Cal/Mag extra 2 ml/gal. They also got another dose of Recharge. That being said, out next topic is watering. I have changed up the watering to 500 ml every other day starting today. I'll keep a close eye throughout the day for any over watering issues, but I don't think there will be any. I have the moisture spread well throughout the entire container. No runoff so that's good as well. It means I haven't over watered for such young plants. Now for lighting. The light was dropped last week from 29" to 27.5" but this morning I made some changes. I increased the light intensity up from 30% to 40%. I also raised the light to 28" from the little baby plants. This all increased the light intensity to a happy level. DLI: 22.7 mol/m²/d PAR: 350 ppfd Distance: 28" Finally we are looking at RH. The goal for this week is 60%. With the higher light power level the temp will increase. In turn, the humidity should hover around 60% to 62% with the temp closer to 78°. However, I would like to keep it at 77° for the whole veg stage. That's all for today. Grow System Environment: Temp: 73° RH: 60.3% VPD: 1.09 kPa March 2, 2024 Kind of running into an issue with feeding and watering. The containers aren't as moist as I would have hoped and I'm starting to think the nitrogen levels are still low. I think I'll increase the whole regimen by 50% and double the Cal/Mag. I'm also considering feeding 250 ml on off days. For this week, I'll use nutrient water and no plain water. I'll switch to every other watering, next week. Just until I can get them to catch up. They are both still very yellow. As for lighting, it's perfect. They are both reaching just right. Perfect praying. I will most likely increase the power level to 60% next week to match the middle/ late veg stage. I'd really like to be at 100% power by the middle of flowering. Other than the yellow leaves they look healthy as can be. Super broad leaves and strong stalks. I have fans running in the tent for circulation but nothing is directly hitting the plants. That will hopefully keep the stalk malleable for training which will start when they can reach the edge of the containers without folding the plant in half. I would like to see maybe 5" of standing stalk from the base. Much easier to water when the soil is free of too low hanging branches. This time around, I will do my best to keep these well defoliated. However, I don't want to go overboard. According to FastBuds, the buds are super dense and the branches need to be supported and spread out for air flow. They didn't say anything about leaf coverage. I'm guessing they will be super busy as it goes with most indicas. We shall see though. I may ask for help from the community for defoliation. I'm no good at it. At least not with autoflowers. I feel I'll have a lot more control with photoperiod, but I like the autoflowers. I have plenty of photoperiod seeds, just haven't had the space to grow them. Some day, I'll grow some. Probably a better idea to grow them sooner rather than later. Maybe I'll run them after my Sour Diesel/Blue Dream run. That will be after the competition I'm joining around 4/20. Those will be autos as well, so it should go pretty quickly. Update: I decided to water in 250 ml after all. I didn't water at the base though. I feel that is crucial in not overwatering the young plants. When I water the 500 ml tomorrow, I'll water the base. It seems to be working. Also, I am wondering if I should do a foliar spray with the nutrients just to help speed up the nitrogen intake. I'll have to research if I should or not. Grow System Environment: Temp: 74.1° RH: 60.9% VPD: 1.10 kPa March 3, 2024 So I realized that I need to compensate for the complete lack of nutrients in the soil and bumped the feed from 2 ml to 3 ml for all the nutrients except for Recharge. They got their 500 ml watering today. The bases were watered as well. A tiny bit of drooping, but they were just fed and the water needs to seep in. Plus the lower half of the containers are still fairly dry. So that should certainly spread down and even the soil out. They also haven't recovered from the nitrogen deficiency completely, but I'm sure that will come with time. They aren't slow, at least not that I can tell. They seem to be growing at a decent rate. They are both the same size and nearly identical. Even down to the nitrogen deficiency. What's interesting is the 2 Banana Purple Punch's don't seem to be as hungry as these two and they didn't show signs of it until just yesterday. But I'm pretty sure I caught it in time. Nothing to worry about... I hope. Lol... Anyway, I had to raise the light and inch. They are starting to stretch and I'd like to keep the DLI at 22.7 mol/m²/d for the rest of the week. But I may also mess with the light mid week and increase the power up to 50%. I'll probably have to raise the light, but then next week I can move right into 60% and increase the DLI. I'll decide over night. Might be a good idea. Getting the extra power down to the plants so they can grow like mad. The environment has been nearly perfect for the last couple days. The RH is spot on and hasn't really moved much at all. The temps have been comfortable at 77° during the day and 70° for lights out. I plan to keep it that way for the rest of this week. Next week, I'll decrease the temp a bit and drop the RH to 58%. Grow System Environment: Temp: 75.5° RH: 62.1% VPD: 1.11 kPa March 4, 2024 Lots to do today. Let's start with watering. Both plants got their 250 ml where I don't water the base of the plants. They are still pretty yellow, so I may increase the Grow base nutrient a bit. I really need the nitrogen deficiency to catch up now. This time is absolutely crucial for growth and I know they aren't growing at their fullest potential. Hopefully the boost from tomorrow's feeding will show improvement overnight. I may even do a light foliar mist as well. Something to get more nitrogen in the leaves. Maybe I'll do it with just the base grow nutrient. Reservoir instillation is coming next week. So I really need the containers to have a bit of runoff when I install them. I may have to do another 500 ml after tomorrow as well. The containers just aren't moist enough yet. Hopefully it will be fine by the end of the week. As I mentioned yesterday, I messed with the light today. I increased the power level up to 50% and dropped the light about an inch for a new intensity. DLI: 27.2 mol/m²/d PAR: 420 ppfd ( totally on purpose 🤣) Power: 50% Distance: 27" This is prep for next week as the light power will be increased to 60% and DLI increased. The goal is to get the light down to between 24" and 26" from the canopy. Grow System Environment: Temp: 76.0° RH: 62.0% VPD: 1.14 kPa March 5, 2024 Both plants are looking really nice. They are both still a bit light green though. I'm sure in time, they will both be growing like mad in no time. They are getting close to the edge of their containers. Right on que. In 2 days, they should be big enough to install the basins. Hopefully the roots will be close to the bottom where the wicks can work their magic. I watered in 500 ml today. I decided that I needed to increase the nutrients as we are coming to the end of week 2. So now I have all nutrients at 4 ml/gal except the Recharge of course. I may increase that for next week. I'm not sure that I've caught up to the nitrogen issue though. That's still a concern. I really want to do a foliar spray, but I don't know if Advanced Nutrients are foliar compatible. I had to move the light up a half inch today. It's not much, but I'm keeping the PAR at 420 ppfd until next week. The environment is spot on for the week so far. 78° and 60.5% humidity for the day so far. As for last night, temp at 70.7° and 62.5% humidity. Grow System Environment: Temp: 76.1° RH: 61.9% VPD: 1.14 kPa March 6, 2024 Both plants got watered 450 ml today. That's what was left in the jug, so that's what they got. I did end up watering the bases as well. I need moisture throughout the soil ASAP. The light green is still there. So I'm not sure they have enough nitrogen yet. I'll definitely be increasing the nutrition dose again at the start of next week. I didn't mess with the lighting today. I'll check it tomorrow and adjust as necessary. The environment is looking great as well. It's a bit warm out today, so the tent is hovering at 78°, but the RH is still at 61% wonderful! Grow System Environment: Temp: 75.9° RH: 61.7% VPD: 1.15 kPa March 7, 2024 Boh ladies got their watering today. I started with 250 ml and waited an hour to add the other 250 ml. I also increased the base grow nutrient to 8 ml from 4 ml as well as Recharge. That was increased from a quarter teaspoon to a half teaspoon. Both plants are still showing signs of nitrogen deficiency. So the increase in grow nutes should do it. I'll also be able to water in a liter pretty soon. It won't be tomorrow, but maybe the next watering after that. We shall see how things go. Lighting is fine still. I didn't move anything. The plants aren't tall enough for the intensity to increase. Either way, tomorrow I'll be increasing the power and intensity. They should love the change. Especially at this age. The environment is also spot on still. I'll be decreasing the humidity down to 58% tomorrow and will keep the temp the same around 77°. It should be perfect for week 3 of veg. I expect the flowering stage to start in a couple of weeks. Maybe a week and a half. At least that's what I should be expecting according to FastBuds. I'd also like to note that both plants have been rotating all on their own. It's intriguing how they are doing that. I'll have to start rotating in a couple weeks when they get bigger. Unless I have to run a net, then no rotation obviously. Still super interesting. Grow System Environment: Temp: 75.5° RH: 61.6° VPD: 1.13 kPa
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Week 9 the flushing begins! Divine storm 1 & 2 are both looking happy and healthy. Frosty ladies with a unique smell. Excited for harvest, in the next 4-5 days. Thanks for stopping by growfessors! 👽🌳🔥
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Hoping we won't have to raise the structure, but probably will. They filled out pretty well and are smelling wonderful.
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💩Holy Crap We Are Back At It And Loving It💩 Growmies we are at DAY 35 and she's just killing💀it👌 👉We are in the Preflower stretch 👈 Everything is looking good even the Tiny Cup 🥤 So Shit , I gave them just a tad to much nutes on the last feeding 👈 But I have since fixed it So I'm starting to pull her over and do some low stress training 🙃 and some defolation 😳 Lights being readjusted and chart updated .........👍rain water to be used entire growth👈 👉I used NutriNPK for nutrients for my grows and welcome anyone to give them a try .👈 👉 www.nutrinpk.com 👈 NutriNPK Cal MAG 14-0-14 NutriNPK Grow 28-14-14 NutriNPK Bloom 8-20-30 NutriNPK Bloom Booster 0-52-34 I GOT MULTIPLE DIARIES ON THE GO 😱 please check them out 😎 👉THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO GO OVER MY DIARIES 👈
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Hey there, as the clones are almost ready and I will transplant them in the aeroponic system tomorrow, I allowed myself to get the pH and EC ready and stabilize it over a night. 😏 August, 20th: 23 of the 30 clones made it to the system and are now growing fine. Guess those 7 clones that didn‘t make it were old ones from below the mother plant. SanLights at 40%. ☀️
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In hopping I don't make some bullshits...🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼 Peace to all✌️✌️🏼✌️🏿✌️🏾✌️🏽✌️🏻
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La settimana sta andando bene qualsiasi Consiglio su come migliorare è ben accetto
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2021-01-07 Starting into Week 2 of Flower on Monday Puddin stretched around 10 cm, Iam very Pleased with this Grow. Today I supercropped the Plant, to give her strong Structure. The Fun begins, and next Week we can see tiny Flowers Shes sitting into 75l of Soilmix, and gets around every 3rd day 5l of Water Its pure Pleasure to look at her here are some Codes Lights: https://viparspectra.eu/discount/M.Larimar And for the Fertilisers: https://greenbuzzliquids.com/en/shop/ Code: mrs_larimar
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En su Nuevo suelo y con los microbios ganaron vigorosidad, las hojas están frondosas, y sus tallos engordaron, la verdad siento que prometen mucho 😈