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Starting to put on some weight now. Everything is looking good at this point.
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Una semana tranquila y con pocos cambios. Se hizo una ultima poda de algunas pocas hojas abanico y poco mas. esta semana a mediados empezó a mostrar los tricomas claramente, hasta entonces fue difícil de verlos.
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The strain has proven to be extremely sturdy compared to the autoflower version. The smell has been a bit problematic. Some terpenes just can't seem to be tamed even with a brand new carbon air filter. I hope this pays off in terms of aroma quality :)
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This week I did a single topping at the 5th node. Along with this I applied low stress training and tucking to expose the new growth. The leaves seem a little dry on this one, think it’s because I needed a little better air movement In that area, rotated fans and adjusted Rh.
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Fastbuds Smoothie Auto 🔸🔸🔸05/03/2023🔸🔸🔸 📝Saturday 06.10.23 - As this week comes to an end, I am seeing signs that the plants need a bit of calcium, so today was a topdressing day with a 70/30 blend of Bloom to Grow, watered in with H20 PG to 6.2 with CalMag at 5ML per Gallon of H20. 📝Thursday 06.08.23 Two of these ladies are really rocking it, 1 of these ladies is moving very slowly. , Moved the Medic Grow Smart 8 LED into the Flowering setting, increasing the Far Reds, check out the above slide and the amazing PFD! 🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸 ▪️Grown By: MrJones ▪️Medic Grow Smart 8 LED / Settings 60% & F1 ▪️@medicgrow420 ▪️@fastbuds_genetics_official ▪️@gaiagreenorganics ▪️Soil - ProMix HP 🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸 📝Smoothie Auto is the result of a cross between Somango and Blueberry, and really brings out the best of both worlds; a well-statured plant ideal for all types of growers. Reaching up to 23% THC, this strain delivers an uplifting giggly high. Not to mention its exceptionally fruity taste making it an ideal choice for extractions. ▪️Bud Appearance Fruity, sticky, resinous buds, as potent as they are tasty. Rock-solid nugs that’ll crumble when touched. ▪️Smoke Report Balanced, yet Potent. This strain blends a euphoric head high with relaxing body effects. A great strain for a sun-time smoke, a weekend getaway, or a relaxed afternoon with friends. ▪️Plant Appearance A well-structured plant that will grow a large main cola accompanied by some lower side branches, somewhat resembling an Indica, yet still with a good average inter-nodal spacing. During the later weeks of growth, some can expect purple hues to appear on the leaves.
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5/24 Woke up on payday to find that my father is in the hospital. My house was robbed a few days before so I guess the hits keep coming. The plants are doing good though. I'm glad I kept them in as we had a frost last night. I moved my cage yesterday onto the asphalt and put the big pallet in. I just need to sanitize the others before they go in the cage. I'm being super cautious. I think tomorrow will be the day I make the switch to the garage while they fill out these 3's.OK. 5/25 Plants were all moved to the garage with the door open for indirect light. It's 54 degrees. At night I'll pull them back in and give them a few more hours under the hps which will also help with heat. Knocked a stem sideways but it'll pop back. Feels good to get things moving. HST seems to being going good. UPDATE: Went back over at one and noticed that the plant I hit with a wire (or something I didn't see what happened) was almost sideways and really loose. I had tied it to a clip with flagging. That didn't work. I asked a friend and I ended up pinching off the first true leaves then mounded happy drug up around it to keep it upright. It LOOKS much happier. Of course that shit happens to your biggest healthiest plants. Oh well all the 10th planet are doing phenomenal. Can't wait to move these girls to there final homes. Plants went under lights at seven. I'm acclimenting them to the right light schedule. I don't want to jump from 18/6 to 15 hours. They did really good in the cold Temps and wind. The big one I had to fix looks like it's doing great. Once they are hardened and fill these pots they go in their final home. 5/26 Plants did great being in direct sunlight for a few hours and staying in the garage at night. They look super healthy. I'm planning on watering tomorrow. Wondering if I should start to add some silica to strengthen the stalks. Also wondering if I should add more soil to some of the pots like I did to the other one as the stretched a little. This is something I may do tomorrow before I water. Went back over to switch the lights on and pull the plants back and lock up at 7:30. Forgot my phone of course and these girls were looking amazing. I have to water tomorrow. I coukd add more soul to some of the pots but I'm reluctant due to stem rot. They'll get buried much deeper in there final homes. Don't want to mount up soil and then water and promote rot. Anyway plants are adapting amazing. Dialing the light closer to normal here. This is a great transition place for them to he. I've noticed a few wrinkled leaves but thats to be expected. Oh, I got my free pure Michigan seeds from premium cultivars!!! 5/27 WATERED EVERYTHING TODAY WITH HALF A Powerade BOTTLE APPROX. 16OZ. Plants are in direct light in the mornings and I haven't seem any burning yet. I noticed a small spot on one of the first true leaves but I think it's just a bite from an insect. Everything is green as hell. I'm wondering if I should add fresh soil to the pots but I didn't want to do it on a watering day. Plus the plants will be going in there final homes shortly. Very happy with progress this far. UPDATE Went over at 1230 and everything looked great. I sanitized the cage AND the pallets. Also bought 3 more 30 gallon grow bags. Once they go in there they will explode! I can't wait. I'm considering ordering netting for moths. Depending on price i might get some. If not I'll keep using the BT. UPDATE: Went and checked around 430. Temps were in the 70's and they had a few hours of direct sun. No burns evident as of yet. Pallets fit in the cage like puzzle pieces. Now I need to sanitize my grade stakes bamboo and trellis and setthat stuff up. I'm going to screw the grade stakes to the pallets and attach garden rods and bamboo with zip ties and I'll have a horizontal trellis. Once branches are a little bigger I'll begin LST. The plants that I topped AND the ones I FIMed are doing great. The FIMed ones with at least three colas some have four. Hoping the plants took that time growing roots. 5/28 Plants are all standing up tall. They loved that water. Haven't noticed any burns and they get direct sunlight in the mornings. Soon I can put them in the cage and start setting up my trellis and supports. Fan leaves on soms are bigger than my hands. These girls are probably the healthiest plants I've grown. I usually do clones and end up starting with problems. This is great starting with seeds and have no problems. UPDATE: Went back around two because Temps had reached 92f and rh was only 20%. Nights cool off greatly so it's a dramatic temperature shift. Plants looked great. All standing up looking great. Put plants in at 7:30 ,and continue the light until 9 and have it turn on at 4am. Then they are out by sunrise. Did notice some burning on one of my plants a large fan leaf. What can I say? It was extremely hot. I'm surprised they did as well as they did. 5/29 Everything standing up perfectly looking great. Plantscget an extra hour of sun at night and morning and are on 19/7 with the extra added light. Trying to acclimate and finish hardening off this week. I'd love to be able to at least put them in full sunlight for the day. I think they'd be fine. I'm really impressed with how they are growing. Second guessing not HST all of them. However I think I might light dep a couple. We'll see. I've still got work to do. UPDATE: put the plants in around 7. One of my lights shit the bed. They are just 150 watt hps but I was using them to finish hardening off my plants and slowly adjust them to the natural light. The on/off switch fell off. I'm sure my cousin can fix it bit the one is pe9bably fine as I'm only going fir a few more days. The thing about having this many plants to choose from is that I can pheno hunt and put the VERY best into the final containers and if I decide too I could light dep. 5/30 WATERED EVERYTHING TODAY WITH HALF A POWERADE BOTTLE. My cousin can probably fix the other light but I don't think it will matter. Within a week I'm going to have these girls in their final homes. I just need to sanitize the trellis and posts and then screw them to the pallets. I'll have this all taken care of before the plants go in the hole. I did notice another burn on a leaf. Def glad I'm taking the time to do this right. UPDATE: I put the girls in the barn around 7:30 and flicked the one 150 watt HPS light I have working on. I added a half hour more of darkness to try to acclimate them quicker. Light stays on until 9 qnd came back on at four but i changed it to 4:30. I'm usually there by 5. I'm looking through my surveillance cameras and it doesn't even look like the light is on. Of course its super bright out but I should be able to see from that image. Luckily the building the go in has massive windows up top to let light in and windows on every side so the light is probably unnecessary. However due to my bullshit luck last year I'm being as cautious as I can. Tomorrow is supposed to be extremely hot again as is the next day. I think I'll leave the door down a little, open the other and move the plants back so they have no direct sunlight and adding a fan. That way they can continue to recover. They seem bigger everything I see them. 5/31 Another hot day. I figure a few more days (under a week) and I can transplant these girls! Supposed to be 85 today and 90 tomm. It was 45 when I got here. These girls are doing well handling this bipolar weather. UPDATE: IM AN IDIOT AND THIS IS AN 8 DAY WEEK lol. Maybe I'll do a six day week next time to get back on track. Went back over at two and noticed some burns. Sent a video to a friend andcwith the sun we've had and the weather in the 90's he agreed the damage was minimal. However there was someone there working who opened more doors which let a lot more light in. It's supposed to be in the 90s tomorrow too. I may leave the doors shut. There are windows on everyside and an enormous cone at the top so the get plenty of sun. He also grows and I've been careful to not let anyone that grows go around my plants. I'm going to have to talk with family about this. To be honest I'm kinda pissed. Next watering I may add some kelp me kelp you and start a small nute regimen. UPDATE Went back over at seven after having a panic attack. Half stoned half asleep. Stupidly I was looking at a plant and thought "shit" the FIM must not have took but in reality I was just stoned and tired so I topped a plant that had already been fimmed so we'll see how that goes. Purple punch is so far behind everything else it's not even funny. There might be one that's doing pretty well and that of course is the one with no HST. Branches on the other strains are thick and ready for LST though. What I think I'll do is transplant the 10th planets and the blueberry cheese ones that are ready and hold off on the rest for a while. Hopfully I'll be able to show plants in final homes next week.
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It has been a week of amazing growth for the Xtrakush too. What an amazing plant this is. Resilient, enormous growth, it was only last week that we took out her brother. It turned out to be male, which is why we planted two in one pot. Already she has taken up its space almost entirely. And the bud growth is also something I haven't seen before. This can really turn out to be enormous buds if the buds grow out like advertised. All in all a great week with lots of activity on my part to facilitate these results. We are three weeks into flowering, the deadline I set myself from where I'm allowed defoliating the underside. To prevent stress, but also to maximize growth I hadn't touched them all grow. Also, I made the flowering amendments, it didn't seem they needed anything so I waited a couple of weeks. I made a mix of 2 cups worm castings, 2 cups bonemeal, 1 cup of micro life (per plant) and mixed this. I dropped this on the soil around the stem. In just a day another amazing stretch happened. The combined defoliation and added nutes gave a boost they seemed to love. I watered with a heavy mix of BAC organic flowering, Topmax and Calmag, and a one in 6 mix of my trusty permaculture tea. This SP 3000 is performing so well. Thanks again @MarsHydroLED for letting us try it. We are believers! If you are in the market for a light, give this one a chance!! Thanks again for all the likes, comments and the people following! Only 6 more weeks to go!! Big hug!! Bud
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(Encontrarás la traducción a "Español" en la última parte de la descripción) 21/September/2018: (Photo 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 & 7) Foliar application of Neem oil, Potassium Soap MIX with organic insecticide (Tec-Forte) to combat Trips and white flies. I sprayed 0.5 l of water with 2.5 ml N.Oil + 2.5 ml P.Soap and 0.1 ml of Tec-Forte @ 9 P.H. 27/September/2018: (Photo 8, 9, 10 & Video 1) ** WEEK 7 EXACT WATERING CALENDAR ** 21/09/18 - 1.5 l of water @ 6.4PH + Foliar 22/09/18 - 1.5 l of water + "1/2 dose" of all "PREVIOUS WEEK" nutrients @ 6.4PH 23/09/18 - 1.5 l of water @ 6.4PH 24/09/18 - 1.5 l of water + "1/2 dose" of all "PREVIOUS WEEK" nutrients @ 6.4PH 25/09/18 - 1.5 l of water @ 6.4PH 26/09/18 - 2 l of water + All week nutrients @ 6.4PH & 1.55 E.C. 27/09/18 - 1 l of water @ 6.4PH ----------- ESPAÑOL ------------ 21/Septiembre/2018: (Foto 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 & 7) Aplicación foliar de Aceite de Neem y Jabón Potásico con (Tec-Forte) para combatir Trips y mosca blanca. He echado 0,5 litro de agua con 2,5 ml de Aceite de Neem, 2,5 ml de Jabón Potásico y 0,1 ml de Tec-Forte @ 9 P.H. 27/Septiembre/2018: (Foto 8, 9, 10 & Vídeo 1) ** SEMANA 7 CALENDARIO DE RIEGO EXACTO ** 21/09/18 - 1,5 l de agua @ 6,4PH + Foliar 22/09/18 - 1,5 l de agua + "1/2 dosis" de los nutrientes de la "SEMANA ANTERIOR" @ 6,4PH 23/09/18 - 1,5 l de agua @ 6,4PH 24/09/18 - 1,5 l de agua + "1/2 dosis" de los nutrientes de la "SEMANA ANTERIOR" @ 6,4PH 25/09/18 - 1,5 l de agua @ 6,4PH 26/09/18 - 2 l de agua + Nutrientes de la semana @ 6,4PH & 1.55 E.C. 27/09/18 - 1 l de agua @ 6,4PH
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Moved to a bigger tent. My intention is since I have this tent for sawing aluminium, and not using it at the moment, that id see how a space would reduce my need to dehumidify (since i am using co2 - fans are on only at night). Its now at a stable 1.1 without a need to de-and humidify. going to finish off this week and then start to flower next week. I plan to have 32 total apical tips. 4x4x2 = 32. and letting those grow out to about 3 nodes b4 flipping to flower or maybe in a week. we'll see.
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? Blueberry Muffin – Pheno B Week 8 | Lush, Green & Ready to Perform 🌿🔥 Welcome back to another week of the 8×8 Adventure! 💚🌱 If you're new to this diary, welcome! And if you've been following from the beginning, you already know that this project isn't simply about growing twelve plants. It's about watching twelve different personalities develop under the same conditions. Twelve cultivars. The same room. The same lighting. The same irrigation system. The same general feeding strategy. And yet somehow… they all tell completely different stories. Blueberry Muffin Pheno B is becoming a perfect example of that. Last week, she finally joined the flowering party. This week? OMG. She's looking absolutely lush. 🌱 A Quick Recap — How Did We Get Here? Because every phenotype has its own diary, I always want to begin with a little recap. Blueberry Muffin Pheno B has been grown from seed under a strict 12/12 light schedule, meaning she has received twelve hours of light and twelve hours of darkness from the beginning of the project. This is what we call 12/12-from-seed. Rather than giving the plants a traditional vegetative period under a longer light schedule, we're allowing them to develop under flowering photoperiod conditions from the start. And that doesn't mean every plant reacts the same way. Quite the opposite. We've seen some plants transition very quickly, while others have taken considerably longer. Pheno B was one of the slower ones. She spent a long time developing her structure before finally deciding that it was time to flower. But once she made that decision… she didn't waste any time. During the vegetative stage I deliberately kept things relatively gentle. There was no aggressive training programme. No constant manipulation. Mostly LST and gentle leaf positioning, allowing the plant to naturally develop her own structure while making small adjustments when necessary. That has given us a really interesting phenotype to observe. She's approximately the same size as her sister, but her personality is completely different. Pheno A developed a more open architecture. Pheno B? She's becoming a lush little bush. 🌿 And now we're finally getting to see what that structure can do in flower. 🌸 Flowering — She's Ready to Perform This is officially her second week of flowering development, and the transformation is becoming much more obvious. The flowering sites are clearly established now, with fresh white pistils appearing throughout the canopy. The tops are beginning to develop their own identity, and there are flowering sites distributed all across the plant. She's not stretching dramatically. She's not trying to become the tallest girl in the room. Instead, she's putting her energy into building what is already a very full structure. And that's what has me curious. Because when you look at her now, the question isn't really: "Will she flower?" That's already happening. The question is: What is she going to do with all this structure? Will she keep stacking compact flowers? Will she put on more stretch? How much will those smaller flowering sites develop? We don't know yet. And that's exactly why we're documenting it. 🌿 The Greenest Girl in the Room? One thing that immediately stands out this week is her colour. Look at this girl. She's carrying an incredibly lush green across the canopy. There are a few leaves here and there that had some imperfections or showed signs that they weren't contributing much anymore. Those are exactly the kinds of leaves we've been removing during our selective cleaning. But looking at the plant as a whole? She's looking healthy, vibrant and full of energy. And that's particularly interesting when compared with her sister. Same genetics. Same room. Same project. Different phenotype. Different expression. Pheno A has been asking for more nutrition and has been slower to regain that deeper colour. Pheno B is basically standing there saying: "I'm good. What's next?" 😂 And I absolutely love seeing that difference. ✂️ Cleaning, Lollipopping & Defoliation This week we've also continued our cleaning work around the room. And again, I want to emphasize something because this is an important part of how I'm approaching this entire project. There is no defoliation day. I don't have a calendar saying: Week 8 = everybody gets defoliated. That's not how I grow. There are twelve plants in this room, and they're twelve different personalities. So I look at the room. I look at the plants. And when one plant is telling me that it could benefit from a little cleaning… I clean that plant. Another one might be ready next week. Another one might need almost nothing. And that's perfectly fine. I'm also doing this entire project myself. So I'm not going to create artificial pressure by trying to defoliate twelve plants on the same day simply because a schedule says I should. I go with the flow. Not with pressure. For Pheno B, this meant removing selected leaves that were no longer useful, were creating unnecessary overlap, or were interfering with the developing flowering sites. We also cleaned up the lower portion of the plant with some lollipopping, removing lower growth that wasn't likely to contribute meaningfully to the main flowering structure. The objective isn't to strip the plant. It's simply to clean up the areas that don't need to be there anymore and improve the overall architecture. And I think the result is pretty clear in the photographs. She's still very leafy. She's still lush. She's still got plenty of healthy foliage. But the plant now has a cleaner lower structure and better-defined flowering areas. That's exactly what I want. ⚗️ Feeding — A Little More for Everyone The feeding programme has also been increased this week. And just like with Pheno A, this wasn't because Blueberry Muffin Pheno B suddenly demanded a huge increase. The entire room has reached a point where nutritional demand has increased naturally as flowering progresses. So we adjusted the feeding accordingly. Pheno B doesn't look hungry. Quite the opposite. She's looking fantastic. But she certainly doesn't appear to mind the increased availability either. 😄 Our current feeding consists of: 🌱 Plagron Terra Bloom – 2.2 ml/L 🌱 Plagron Power Buds – 1 ml/L 🌱 Plagron Sugar Royal – 1 ml/L 🌱 Plagron Pure Zym – 1 ml/L With the pH adjusted to approximately 6.0. The important thing now is not to keep changing things simply because we can. We've increased the feeding. Now we watch. If she continues maintaining this beautiful colour and keeps developing normally, that's a very good sign that she's comfortable with the current strategy. If she tells us something different… we listen. That's really the philosophy behind this entire grow. 🌡️ Environment The environment remains stable, which is exactly what I want at this stage. 🌡️ Day temperature: 29°C 🌙 Night temperature: 25°C 💧 Relative humidity: 60% 🥥 Substrate temperature: 21°C 💦 Nutrient solution temperature: 24°C ⚗️ pH: 6.0 ⚡ EC: approximately 2.0 mS/cm 💨 CO₂: 693 ppm 💡 Light schedule: 12/12 💧 Watering: approximately 1.3 L/plant/24h ? Pot size: 15 litres She's continuing in the AutoPot system, giving the root zone consistent access to the nutrient solution. That consistency is particularly valuable now that the plant has moved properly into flowering. No unnecessary drama. No wild swings. Just a stable environment and a plant being allowed to do what she naturally wants to do. ? Pheno B's Personality Is Becoming Very Clear This is probably my favourite part of this week's update. Because now we're beginning to understand who she is. She's compact. She's bushy. She's extremely leafy. She's naturally vigorous. And she's carrying a beautiful green colour. She's also developing a very different structure from her sister despite being the same cultivar. And that's exactly why I wanted separate diaries for the phenotypes. Imagine if these two plants were simply documented together under one Blueberry Muffin diary. We would lose half the story. Pheno A would tell us one story. Pheno B is telling us another. Same genetics. Different expression. And now we're going to get the opportunity to see whether that difference continues all the way through flowering. 📸 Behind the Lens The camera really captured the personality of this girl this week. The close-ups show those fresh pistils emerging from the developing flowers, while the wider photographs reveal just how much plant she has packed into a relatively modest footprint. The canopy is full. The flowering sites are becoming easier to identify. And that green… wow. There are still a few older leaves that have shown some imperfections, but after the selective cleaning, the plant looks remarkably uniform. This is one of those weeks where the photographs almost tell the story before I even start writing. She's ready. Now we just have to see what she does with the opportunity. 🔮 Looking Ahead — What Do We Expect? For the coming week, I'm not expecting any miracles overnight. And I'm certainly not going to make predictions about final yield or flower size at this stage. It's still early. What I am expecting is continued flower development. I'm looking for: 🌸 Increasing flower formation 🌿 Continued healthy green growth ? More definition around the individual flowering sites 📈 Some gradual stacking and development ✂️ Further selective cleaning only where the plant actually needs it And what am I not expecting? I'm not expecting every plant in the room to behave the same way. I'm not expecting Pheno B to suddenly become Pheno A. And I'm definitely not going to force her into a schedule simply because another plant is ready for something. She has already shown us that she's perfectly capable of writing her own story. So we'll let her continue. 💚 One More Week, One More Lesson This week is another reminder of why the 8×8 Adventure has become so fascinating for me. Two Blueberry Muffins. Same environment. Same genetics. Same light. Same irrigation. Same general feeding strategy. Yet look at them. Two completely different personalities. Pheno A is the patient one, gradually finding her rhythm and demanding a little more nutrition. Pheno B is the lush one, standing there with a beautiful green canopy and looking like she's ready to perform. Neither is better. Neither is worse. They're simply different. And that's the whole point. The grower doesn't always get to decide what the plant is going to become. Sometimes our job is simply to create the conditions where the plant can show us. 💚 Thank You As always, thank you so much to everyone following the 8×8 Adventure. Every week this project becomes a little more interesting, and seeing twelve different cultivars develop under the same conditions has been an incredible learning experience. A huge thank you to GrowDiaries for providing the platform where I can document this journey, share the observations and learn alongside growers from around the world. To Zamnesia, thank you for these beautiful Blueberry Muffin genetics. Watching two different phenotypes from the same cultivar develop such different personalities has already made this one of the most interesting comparisons in the room. To Plagron, thank you for the nutrients and growing media supporting the plants throughout this journey. And to Future of Grow LED, thank you for providing the lighting that gives all twelve girls the same opportunity to show us what their genetics can do. And finally, to everyone following, commenting, asking questions, sharing experiences and simply stopping by to see how the girls are doing… thank you. 💚 This adventure wouldn't be nearly as meaningful without the community around it. So let's see what this lush little Blueberry Muffin has planned for us next. She's got the structure. She's got the colour. She's got the flowers. Now it's time to see what she can do with them. ?🌸🔥 Growers Love, my friends. See you next week. 💚🌱
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9-21-25 Apple fritter is doing great can’t wait for her to finish.
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This is one of the happiest plants I’ve grown. She’s starting to really pack on weight and getting some fat dense buds. I’m so so excited for her to finish up these next few weeks. She’s gonna be a great final smoke.
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Did some more defoliation but keeping her going as she's wrapping up the stretch. Really starting to flower now, which took way longer than I expected. She's a late bloomer for sure, not the best for growing outdoors, this was a test seed though so I just kept her going. Amsterdam Genetics doesn't recommend this one for growing outdoors btw.
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Sorry I couldn't get better pictures but I'll try again tomorrow. This strain certainly deserves it. Very low leaf to bud ratio on this plant. Dark pink or orange stigmas retracted into the buds as they finished and one pheno had the densest nugs I've ever grown. This year realky showed me the difference of quality seeds compared to "local" clones. After a rainstorm on the large fluffier pheno I found a "trapped" bumblebee inside one of the massive colas. I had to help it out. It was literally "stuck" due to the resin. This strain had the most pleasant aroma that stuck with the finished product. Due to the small amount of leaf to bud ratio this plant was a breeze to trim. That being said I still don't have it ALL manicured up but I'm working on it. All plants seemed fairly pest resistant as well. If you enjoy indica strains (90/10) with short flowering times than this should certainly be on your "to grow list." Having these plants totally finish before October was very helpful. According to many local growers (both patients and commercial growers) this was "the worst year for growing cannabis in memory." I've had the best year I've had in decades (probably ever) both quality and quantity wise.