<span class="link_user">@PharmaZ</span>, Hello,
I’m happy to know there are people who help others and that I’m not the only one going through this.
I understand; I’m following (or trying my best to follow) your recommendations.
I made all the adjustments you suggested. I managed to buy a similar product online (Gorilla Microbes) that contains the seaweed extract; a friend of mine said he’ll use it for foliar feeding once it arrives (I’ll be traveling).
I’m glad you solved the mystery regarding my plants; I’m learning a lot about plants, watering, and so on.
I also found the 300ml watering every 3 days a bit odd, but I didn't know what to do or what was actually happening.
I chose "living soil" because it’s the cheapest medium (at least around here), and the marketing always claims, "buy this soil and water only with plain water until harvest"—but I realized it’s not quite that simple...
Maybe the pot size was my main issue, which led to the watering problem as well—would you agree?
Thank you so much for your insights; please feel free to share your opinion on anything you like—make yourself at home.
Regarding the soil: what do you think about using an organo-mineral mix for my next grow cycle?
<span class="link_user">@grandpon</span>,
No problem every grower has experienced situations like this if they say they haven’t they’re lying. I have some time to help so let’s just try and get this sorted :pray:
Yes 1 watering should last 2 weeks as long as your PPFD is 300-400 and light schedule 18/6
Your plants are currently in a stress stage they aren’t drinking from the roots it’s clear to me.
If you have a look at my current grows I’m using coco I could let them go 3 days without watering at this stage 11-12L of coco in the pot.
That is also due to a healthy microbial environment like mycorrhiza and good bacteria.
You could also do with having a Calcium magnesium supplement/additive.
Helps with new cell growth when the plant invigorates itself.
Exp.
In a higher humidity environment 70-80% I have grown plants from seed to 4 weeks old watering once in 10L soil pots.
And they were big plants at 4 weeks…
You have to get in the Habit of growing cannabis as a plant,
Most varieties like a big watering then a dry back unless you’re running hydro which you’re not. They want to grow big and strong and if you don’t let them they will tell you.
First they need to develop a big root system, once that’s developed you may need to water every 1-2 days in most potting mixes but again it’s all variables like how big is your pot vs the plants inside it, humidity, temps…
In all honestly you have approached this grow completely wrong,
Soil growing is great but much less forgiving.
I like growing in soil, it can be the easiest (water only) but can also be the hardest.
If you want to do an organic living soil your pots really should be using 20L+ pots filled to the top, or a large planter with your 3 plants in together.
The living soil hype has really ramped up and honestly it’s not all good.
There are so many other factors involved in growing great bud.
Genetics are more important than the growing media.
Then you have environment, if it’s too hot/cold, dry/wet you’re great genetics won’t matter.
You would have been better off with a bag of canna soil for €20 after all you have some nutrients too.
Anyway we’re not giving up just some opinions :pray::+1:
<span class="link_user">@PharmaZ</span>, Hi!
The water pH is around 6 (I know this because I have pH test strips), but I have no idea about the EC.
So, will the watering I do when the soil is completely dry last for two weeks?
Or do you think that, in addition to the two foliar feedings, another watering might be needed?
I wasn't able to buy the product; I checked local stores but they don't have it, so I'll have to buy it online. The problem is I'll be away, though maybe I can get a friend to handle that task.
Thanks—I'll keep you posted and update the grow diary whenever possible.
I can't thank you enough for your support and patience.
<span class="link_user">@grandpon</span>, ok so the soil is damp at the bottom which was expected.
Water with plain water, what is the PH and EC of your regular tap water?
Do the water the day you go
away just before lights come on… if you can… otherwise on the Thursday.
The soil should be as dry as you get it out of the bag, even a little drier is ok.
The water you provide this week will be fine for your entire 2 weeks away.
Your friend can do 2 foliage feeds 7 days apart so if you water them Thurs/Friday your friend should wait 3-4 days to foliar, then another 7 days this is no secret timing just a plan to follow.
Did you pick up some Kelp product?
You can also add this when you water them.
<span class="link_user">@grandpon</span>, ok so the soil is damp at the bottom which was expected.
Water with plain water, what is the PH and EC of your regular tap water?
Do the water the day you go
away just before lights come on… if you can… otherwise on the Thursday.
The soil should be as dry as you get it out of the bag, even a little drier is ok.
The water you provide this week will be fine for your entire 2 weeks away.
Your friend can do 2 foliage feeds 7 days apart so if you water them Thurs/Friday your friend should wait 3-4 days to foliar, then another 7 days this is no secret timing just a plan to follow.
Did you pick up some Kelp product?
You can also add this when you water them.
<span class="link_user">@grandpon</span>, ok so the soil is damp at the bottom which was expected.
Water with plain water, what is the PH and EC of your regular tap water?
Do the water the day you go
away just before lights come on… if you can… otherwise on the Thursday.
The soil should be as dry as you get it out of the bag, even a little drier is ok.
The water you provide this week will be fine for your entire 2 weeks away.
Your friend can do 2 foliage feeds 7 days apart so if you water them Thurs/Friday your friend should wait 3-4 days to foliar, then another 7 days this is no secret timing just a plan to follow.
Did you pick up some Kelp product?
You can also add this when you water them.
<span class="link_user">@PharmaZ</span>, I'm the one who should thank you for the help.
I did this with the stick and i notice that the soil is still slightly damp in the center and the leaves are wilted.
Because of this, I also had a question: in the dryback, how dry should the soil be? Should it be completely dry? Or can it be a little damp?
Okay, I'll stop the training and I've already adjusted the PPFD.
I'm going to travel on Friday and be away for 2 weeks, I'll water them tomorrow and ask my frien to do the watering and foliar watering every 4/5 days.
Unfortunately, I won't be able to closely monitor this progress for the next 15 days starting Friday. Any tips?
<span class="link_user">@grandpon</span>, I’m happy to help, hopefully we can bring them back.
So you don’t need to worry about damaging the roots go as deep as you can and wiggle the stick around do it around the edges not near the root ball. Your aim is to break the soil up a bit.
I also wouldn’t perform anymore LST going forward. Until you get some rapid growth.
Foliar feeding only 2x a week, I would use Kelp extract as suggested, if you have any microbial like bacterial & health fungus you can also add that with regular tap water it’s fine. Soak them before the lights come on and leave them, if they perk up within a few hours that’s a good sign.
You can do it again in another 3 days.
Also lower your light intensity to 50% if you can measure PPFD you want in around 300-400
<span class="link_user">@PharmaZ</span>, Hello!
I’m going to follow your tips—you’re becoming my guru.
But when "piercing" the soil with the stick (even if done slowly), won't that damage the roots?
How often should I do these foliar waterings? Can I add any kind of fermented solution or mineral fertilizer to the watering?
I can't thank you enough for the help you're giving this beginner gardener
<span class="link_user">@grandpon</span>, ok good stuff,
As the plants are small you can get a chopstick/kebab stick and pierce the soil to break it up 10-20 times down towards the bottom of the pot where the roots are.
This will help the soil dry out and break it up a bit.
Again you must not water them, they will still grow slowly until that soil has been completely dried out and new roots start hunting for the moisture. Foliar feeding at that point aids in supplying the plant with the moisture it needs to grow the roots to start forming again. As you can see currently the growth is completely stalled, if the roots were growing the leaves would be too…
I’m on here quite often again so any questions make a comment and I will try to reply asap :v:
<span class="link_user">@PharmaZ</span>, Okay, let's take this step by step.
My soil is a "super soil" purchased from a company. I mixed it with a bit of organic soil from a local grower, but not much. And this week, I added some earthworm castings and bokashi (top-dressing).
I didn't add any coco coir or perlite myself (though they are already included in the super soil mix).
I agree with your theory about soil compaction, as I noticed the soil level in the pot dropping over time. I really think I haven't mastered watering yet and have been overwatering the whole time (because I see the top few centimeters looking dry).
I'm going to try applying seaweed extract.
<span class="link_user">@grandpon</span>, ok so we have established that the light is at the right height (PPF)
The temps and Humidity are in a good range.
So it must be inputs or grow media’s
What is your soil, is it a home made blend or out of a bag?
The pot size etc, shouldn’t matter as long as you’re watering correctly for the pot size. Big pots require less water at first then more water as the plants roots fill it out.
I would suspect that you have been over watering. Which can also cause soil compaction. It doesn’t look like you have added any perlite/coco to the mix?
There a few ways you can approach this depending on your answers to my questions.
First I would get a North Atlantic sea kelp (Ascophyllum nodosum)
I use Green Buzz Liquid Growzyme
Look up the benefits yourself.
Helps wonders with sick plants
You can also foliar feed them, while your soil dries out and the roots grow.
I would suspect you have been overwatering all this time, instead of frequent small amounts of water cannabis plants like to have a big soaking then a dry period repeating like that.
My advice would be to let the pots completely dry out may take 2 weeks if you have over 10L of soil in those pots. After they are drying for 1 week you can foliage feed.
If you pick up some of the growzyme or a respectable kelp product we can get them to bounce back.
1-2 foliar feed a week until they start picking up.
<span class="link_user">@PharmaZ</span>, Hi, I really appreciate your reply, even though I haven't had time to answer you until now (I've been working a lot).
I followed your recommendations this week: I increased the distance from the LED panel and paid attention to the water runoff.
I also did a top dressing with earthworm castings and Bokashi.
You can check it out in my grow journal.
If you could take a look at my plants and offer some input, I’d appreciate it.